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|01-31-2016 05:14 AM|
Like the auction one but not.
|01-31-2016 03:57 AM|
The key issue is that a car needs to be 25 years old for USA importation . That's why all the 1989-1990 cars are finally coming over .
The Japanese bought these during the height of their economy
and their vehicle licensing /Inspection system (sha ken) makes it costly to hold older cars , so virtually all older cars are scrapped or exported from Japan
|01-31-2016 02:30 AM|
|KRH||Interesting the full spec Japan WB 32V used to sell for heaps less than that up until a couple of years ago - how times have changed and they must have just about run out of stock over their way now after so many AMG's in standard body and WB have been sold off over the last 6yrs|
|01-30-2016 09:48 PM|
Half price special:
AMG 560SEC Widebody 6.0 32V
|01-30-2016 06:04 PM|
Originally Posted by bob393 View Post
|01-30-2016 12:47 PM|
Originally Posted by KRH View Post
|01-30-2016 12:38 PM|
|bob393||Just breathtaking, $140,000, wow!|
|01-30-2016 10:46 AM|
|roadhouse||Great explanation Alydon. Thanks!|
|01-30-2016 08:16 AM|
The RM car had the original M117 based block with AMG 32v heads. The M119 (early!) block is extremely close to the M117 block and was a relatively easy configuration for late Gen II AMG cars. Most of the M119/M117 cars were Japan market.
In essence, an early 500SL M119 engine block is used and an M117 560 crank installed (for the necessary stroke) and the M119 block is bored to 100mm for the 6.0L displacement. Then, an M117 front timing cover is placed on the M119 block (yes it fits) so you can use the M117 distributor. After that, the M119 32v reliable heads are installed (not the M117 AMG heads). The early M119 used the same CIS injection system as the late M117 engine so the fuel/spark/ECU/EZL from a 560 works. Engine mounts are in the same place. Tricky part is the exhaust headers off the M119 heads and missing the shock towers and the steering gear box.
As to the # of widebody SEC's built (SOHC, DOHC M117 or M119 hybrid)? No one knows. The Seller had bad info in the RM auction details and the RM intro guy next to auctioneer Max said there were less than 50 widebodies built. No way that info is known. I suspect AMG built about 275 - 300 or so of the 32v head engines based on engine serial #"s I have seen pics of. These engines went into W126 sedans, coupes (including WB's) and the W124 Hammers. Population of AMG modified cars (Affalterbach, Strattons, AMG N America, AMG Japan) is unknown. I know my SOHC 5.4 sedan is legit. Cars with paperwork are extremely rare because the paperwork gets lost in ownership trails. The RM car is probably a legit AMG Japan car - there were many sold in Japan. But I know for certain that widebody kits were created in Japan and widebody cars created with these aftermarket kits. However, i seriously doubt any of these created cars had the 32v engines. Hard to say or know.
Still, for us vintage AMG owners, the RM result was so nice to see as a documented sale of a pre-merger car. The two Hammers sold at Barret-Jackson Scottsdale several years ago (wagon and coupe or sedan) are the only other 2 public sales that I know of and both of those cars hammered sold for around $36k (major bargain). Jono in Atlanta bought the 1 of 1 Hammer wagon.
|01-30-2016 08:02 AM|
Originally Posted by TexFinn View Post
ONLY $42,000 US
That's just $3,687 Cdn
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