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08-11-2019 10:02 AM
TheJoker Just watching the tumbleweeds...

We did get a 10t Weber jack though... but that's about it.

Waiting for the MOT date, which is apparently at the end of the month (should have been end of last month. ). Let's hope there's a cancelled slot somewhere so things will happen a bit faster. :-/
07-29-2019 01:14 AM
TheJoker Today it's 6 weeks since we sent our deposit away to the seller.... Still no Mog. *taps-fingers-impatiently-on-the-table*

Let's see if we can get a status update today and figure out where we're at.

Whilst we've been waiting we've collected a few things ready to be done when she arrives.
- Got the Auber EGT probe and display as recommended by ya'll. Thanks! (Smooth shipping from the US to UK).
- Got a drill and taps to be able to install the EGT.
- Got a 3/4" toolkit for them bigger things.
- Got a couple of fuse boxes. If I'm going to star wiring things in, then I'd like to start off doing it "The Right Way(tm)".
- Got a 24V-12V converter so I can run arbitrary 12V gadgets, if and when needed, in the cab.
- Got some rust converter and POR15 paint so we can clean up the cab floor before doing any soundproofing.
- Got the workshop manuals for the U1300L/32 - 435.115 - OM366A - OM366.956 - We received the wrong ones first.
- Got the operator's manual for the U1300L (for the OM352 engine - there's no operator's manual for the OM366 AFAIK)
- Waiting for the AV soundproofing kit. ~2 weeks away, we're led to believe.
- Got an oil syringe and some oil for the hub gears so I can check and refill on my way home from the seller.

Still to get;
- A torque wrench / adapter that can deal with the higher torques required on a truck.
- Bottle jack.
- Plenty, plenty, plenty of things.

We set up an FB page to share the build, so if you're interested, please come join us.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2459250181025506/

I'll get back to twiddling my thumbs now.
07-02-2019 05:55 AM
TheJoker
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkv000 View Post
I bought and have extensivly since used this puppy (comes in either 3/4" drive or 1" drive, get the one to match your sockets):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...27950_33920250

Same company that used to make Snap-off's wrenches, it's served me really well.
Thanks! That's impressive! I don't really think I'd call it a puppy though!
07-02-2019 05:49 AM
tkv000 I bought and have extensivly since used this puppy (comes in either 3/4" drive or 1" drive, get the one to match your sockets):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...27950_33920250

Same company that used to make Snap-off's wrenches, it's served me really well.
07-02-2019 12:41 AM
TheJoker
Some progress...

It feels like we're making no progress, but even the most impatient one inside me will have to admit to that we've had a bit of progress.

We've put down an order for the AV sound proofing kit (just waiting for a few organs to sell on the black market) and got the workshop manual and operators handbook in the same swing. That should keep me hearing her directions and preventing us from turning the spanners (wrenches) the wrong way..

Then we've ordered a 3/4" socket kit as I reckon it might come in handy, we also got a 1 meter long breaker bar. Should get a spanner kit too, to complete that bit. Then we were thinking of getting one of them fancy-pants-new-fangled digital torque adapters, but I guess I'll need to wait for the manuals to arrive to see what range of torque we need - I am guessing 600Nm. Haven't seen one of them.

I guess the manuals will also tell us what sort of tools and spares I need to pack for the pick-up-date that's waaay into the future. I'm mainly thinking of oil for the portal axles and tools to check/fill them.

Oh, well, time goes on, money's spent, and 'Mog seems very far away.
06-27-2019 01:43 AM
TheJoker
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Originally Posted by tkv000 View Post
Post the VIN and I'll run it, or if you don't want it public, PM me the VIN and your email address

You don't really have "fast axles", as the OM366 has a lower rev limit, you have the standard axles for the OM366, which is fast for the OM352, make sense? All (most, it is the Unimog world afterall) OM366a's got the fast axle order code standard, to make up for the lower rev limit.
Thanks for the help with the VIN. I've sent you a PM. Much appreciated.

Yes, I was aware or at least semi-aware of the OM366 vs "fast axles" issue. I'm just hoping that it'll be acceptable enough to run for now. Upgrades might be happening in the future, but at the moment, we've got other things to spend money on.
06-26-2019 07:14 AM
tkv000 Post the VIN and I'll run it, or if you don't want it public, PM me the VIN and your email address

You don't really have "fast axles", as the OM366 has a lower rev limit, you have the standard axles for the OM366, which is fast for the OM352, make sense? All (most, it is the Unimog world afterall) OM366a's got the fast axle order code standard, to make up for the lower rev limit.
06-26-2019 03:13 AM
TheJoker A few VIN number questions, if you please.


I've ran the VIN number through some free VIN decoders and I can say that the results are confusing and a bit amusing. I've removed the 3 last digits from the VIN, hoping that I'm not giving away too much, but enough to be meaninful.


I'm obviously interested in the major parts. Engine, axles, and such. What can you tell me from this? From what I can tell, it does have an OM366 (which is what we've paid for!), but another piece of paper (fromt he Bundeswehr) says it's only got ~130bhp, rather than the ~170bhp that we assumed it should have?! What gives?
I can also see that it's got fast axles, which is very good.
Is there anything else that you can tell me from this? Apart from that it's a "regular" army Mog?

Below is the three searches I've done.

Thanks for your input!

This one came back with bad German mixed with English. I hope my corrections of the umlauts hasn't made the translation worse.

Vehicle Information

VIN WDB4351151W144***
Model U 1300 L
Colour (6031)
Production Date
Order Nr. 3828147171
Production Nr.7008030

A11 Axle Ratio Fast /
A25 ABDECKBLECHE GEGEN BREMSVERSCHMUTZUNG / BRAKE COVER AGAINST BRAKE POLLUTION
B28 MECH. SCHNELLOESE-EINRICHTUNG IM FEDERSPEICHERZYL. / MECH. QUICK EYE INSTALLATION IN SPRING MEMORY CYL.
B42 Dual Line Trailer Brakes /
B56 KUPPLUNGSKOPF VORN ZUM LUFTNACHFUELLEN / COUPLING HEAD FRONT OF AIR FILLING
B71 FROSTSCHUETZER / FROSTSCHUETZER
C25 TELESKOPSTOSSDAEMPFER VERST. / TELESCOPIC SHOCK ABSORBER
C27 STABILISATOR VORDERACHSE / STABILIZER FRONT AXLE
C55 LENKRADSICHERUNG / STEERING WHEEL LOCK
C71 Fuel Tank Lockable /
C76 FUELLROHR MIT SIEBKORB F. KRAFTSTOFFTANK / FILLING TUBE WITH SIEVE BASKET F. FUEL TANK
E12 ELEKTRIK 24V NAHENTST. M. TARNLICHTANL. U. IR-VERK. / ELECTRIC 24V NAHENTST. M. TARNLICHTANL. U. IR-VERK.
E22 2 NATOBATT.12V-125AH M.AUSZIEHB.BATT-KAST-SCHLITTEN / 2 NATOBATT.12V-125AH M. EXTRACT.BATT-KAST SLATS
E30 BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER AUF SCHALTPLATTE / BATTERY MAIN SWITCH ON SWITCH DISC
E41 ANHAENGERSTECKDOSE 12-POLIG / PENDANT SOCKET 12-POLE
E44 Jump Start Socket /
E47 24 V Equipment Socket (40 A) With C-3 Signal /
E48 STROMVERSORGUNGS- U. RUFANLAGE / POWER SUPPLY & RESCUE SYSTEM
F21 DACHKLAPPE RUND SCHWENKBAR / ROOF CLOUD ROUND SWIVELABLE
F78 BLANKE TEILE LACKIERT / BLANK PARTS LACQUERED
F80 HALTER IN FAHRERHAUS / HOLDER IN DRIVER HOUSE
F81 SONDERTEILE FAHRERHAUS MILITAER SORTIMENT A / SPECIAL PARTS DRIVER'S HOUSE MILITARY ASSORTMENT A
G75 SPERRE FUER 5. BIS 8. RUECKWAERTSGANG / BARRIER FOR 5TH TO 8TH REVERSE
J13 TACHOMETER KM/H MIT 100M-ANZEIGE / TACHOMETER KM / H WITH 100M DISPLAY
J32 MOTOR-DREHZAHLMESSER / ENGINE TACH
J53 BREMSBELAG-VERSCHLEISSANZEIGE / BRAKE pad wear
J67 ABDECKUNG FUER KONTROLLEUCHTEN / COVER FOR CONTROL LIGHT
J93 WEGFALL MOTORWARTUNGSZAEHLER / WEGFALL MOTOR MAINTENANCE COUNTER
L04 UMRISSL. FUER MAX. FAHRZEUGBREITE 2400 MM / CIRCULAR LIGHT FOR MAX. VEHICLE WIDTH 2400 MM
L20 RUECKFAHRSCHEINWERFER / REVERSING LIGHTS
M04 Increased Engine Output /
M15 HANDGASREGULIERUNG / HAND GAS REGULATION
M65 ANSAUGKAMIN / air intake pipe
M86 RIEMENSCHEIBE U SCHWINGUNGSDAEMPFER M KOMBI-RING / PULLEY AND VIBRATION M COMBI RING
P36 PRITSCHE 3150X2200X500 MIT HOLZBODEN (MILITAER) / FLATBED 3150X2200X500 WITH WOOD FLOOR (MILITARY)
P84 HALTER AN PRITSCHE / HOLDER AT FLATBED
Q11 ANHAENGERKUPPLUNG RINGFEDER (NATO) / PENDANT CLUTCH RINGFEDER (NATO)
S01 FAHRERHAUS-AUSSTATTUNG / CAB EQUIPMENT
S11 BEIFAHRERSITZ ZWEISITZER, RUECKENLEHNE KLAPPBAR / PASSENGER SEAT BELOW, BACKREST FOLDABLE
S18 Seat With Imitation Leather, Colour Olive Green /
S25 WINDSCHUTZSCHEIBE VERBUNDGLAS / WINDSHIELD VERBUNDGLAS
S35 SCHEIBENWASCHANLAGE / WASHER
S45 SONNENBLENDE BEIFAHRER / SUNLIGHT PASSENGER
S51 HALTER FUER VERBANDSKASTEN / HOLDER FOR ASSEMBLY BOX
S70 HALTER FUER 2 GEWEHRE / HOLDER FOR 2 GUNS
T05 ERSATZRADHALTERUNG UNTER FAHRERHAUS UND PRITSCHE / SPARE WHEEL MOUNT UNDER CABIN AND FLATBED
T24 1 ERSATZSCHEIBENRAD 11X20 / 1 SPARE WHEEL 11X20
U16 AUFSTECKRAHMEN FUER PRITSCHE / MOUNTING FRAME FOR FLATBED
U20 VERDECKGESTELL / ROOF RACK
U26 SICHERHEITSGURT UEBER PRITSCHENRUECKWAND / SAFETY BELT ABOVE RADIUS PANEL
U35 PRITSCHENVERDECK BRONCEGRUEN / PUNCH COVER BRONCEGRUEN
U50 ZUBEHOERKASTEN / ACCESSORIES BOX
U54 1 KETTENKASTEN / 1 CHAIN ​​BOX
U61 HALTERUNG F. TARNNETZSTANGENTEILE / MOUNTING FOR HINGE NETWORK PARTS
U62 HALTERUNG FUER 2 EINHEITSKANISTER / MOUNT FOR 2 UNIT CANNISTS
U70 TARNNETZBUEGEL / TARNNETZBÜGEL
X82 Plate For German Army Supply No. /
Y15 2 KAESTEN FUER 2 FEUERLOESCHER U. 2 UNTERLEGKEILE / 2 BOXES FOR 2 FIRE EXTINGUISHERS & 2 LOCKS
Y27 UNTERLEGKEIL ZUSAETZLICH / ACCESSORIES IN ADDITION
Y36 FLAGGENHALTER LINKS / FLAG HOLDER LEFT
Y61 FROSTSCHUTZMITTEL BIS - 30 GRAD / ANTIFREEZE TO - 30 DEGREES
Y71 7 VORHAENGESCHLOESSER / 7 PADLOCKS
Y83 BORDWERKZEUG MILITAER / TOOL MILITARY
Z15 SONDERTEILE WATFAEHIGKEIT BELGIEN / SPECIAL PARTS WATERBELT BELGIUM
Z30 SONDERTEILE BUNDESWEHR / SPECIAL PARTS BUNDESWEHR




This one came back pretty OK, but with a lot of "I dunnos".


General Data
FIN WDB4351151W144
Model U1300
Engine 366955 10 079094
Transmission 717901 10 052636
Order Number 3 8 281 47171
Order Location BMVG AND BWG
Paint 1 6031/01
Paint 2 6031/52
Paint 3 /
Paint 4 /
Paint 5 /
Code Description
A11 No code designation available
A25 No code designation available
B28 No code designation available
B42 No code designation available
B56 No code designation available
B71 No code designation available
C25 No code designation available
C27 FRONT SPRINGS, STRONGER, STAGE I
C55 No code designation available
C71 No code designation available
C76 STAINLESS STEEL DOOR SILLS, DRIVER/PASSENGER SIDE
E12 No code designation available
E22 BATTERY ({N) NATO
E30 No code designation available
E41 No code designation available
E44 No code designation available
E47 No code designation available
E48 No code designation available
F21 No code designation available
F78 INTERIOR MIRROR
F80 No code designation available
F81 No code designation available
G75 No code designation available
J13 No code designation available
J32 No code designation available
J53 No code designation available
J67 ANTI-THEFT ALARM (ATA1)
J93 No code designation available
L04 AUTOMATIC DAY DRIVING LIGHT
L20 No code designation available
M04 No code designation available
M15 No code designation available
M65 No code designation available
M86 No code designation available
P36 TARPAULIN
P84 No code designation available
Q11 LONGITUDINAL MEMBER REINFORCEMENT
S01 No code designation available
S11 DRIVER SEAT, HYDRAULIC, IRSINGHAUSEN
S18 No code designation available
S25 CO-DRIVER'S SEAT ARMREST
S35 No code designation available
S45 No code designation available
S51 No code designation available
S70 DRIVER SAFETY BAR
T05 ELECTRIC STEP, FRONT PASSENGER DOOR
T24 No code designation available
U16 No code designation available
U20 OMISSION PRE-INSTALLATION F. SEATING CONFIGURATION
U26 PRE-INSTALLATION F. SEATING CONFIGURATION 2/2/3
U35 SEAT COVER, ZOOM 7223
U50 No code designation available
U54 No code designation available
U61 SEATING, PASS.COMP.,2ND BENCH SEAT, 2ND ROW
U62 SEATS PASS. COMPARTMENT 3X SEATBENCH ROW 1 NARROW
U70 ROTATING SEAT IN FIRST ROW, PASSENGER COMP.
X82 No code designation available
Y15 FOLDABLE SHOPPING BOX
Y27 SECOND CHOCK
Y36 JACK
Y61 No code designation available
Y71 No code designation available
Y83 No code designation available
Z15 No code designation available
Z30 GERMAN ARMED FORCES
Z98 BILL OF MATERIALS ORDER




This one thinks it's a Mercedes C-class.

Mercedes-Benz C-CLASS C200 2001 VIN Lookup Result:
VIN: WDB4351151W144***
WMI / VDS / VIS: WDB 435115 1W144***
Manufacturer: Mercedes-Benz DCAG DAIMLER AG
Brand: Mercedes-Benz
Model: C-CLASS C200 5
Check: 5
Year: 2001
Sequential number: 44***
Approx. mileage: 292,545 km

Build Sheet:

Chassis
Sales designation: U1300
Order number: 3 8 281 47171
Delivery date:
Market: AG,Europe
Production order:
Paint code 1: 6031

Equipment:
Engine no.: 366955 10 079094
Transmission: 717901 10 052636 [transmissionType = GM]
Steering: 765601 10 087254
Cab: 425820 10 029484
Transfer case:
Platform: 435611 10
Front axle 1: 737111 10 I002490
Front axle 2:
Front axle 3:
Rear axle 1: 747111 10 Q002456
Rear axle 2:
Rear axle 3:
Rear axle 4:
Exhaust system:
Battery 1:
Fuel cell 1:
Electric motor 1:
Electric motor 5:
Electric motor 6:

SA code
A11
A25
B28
B42
B56
B71
C25
C27 FRONT SPRINGS, STRONGER, STAGE I
C55 REAR UNDERRIDE PROTECTION EEC
C76 STAINLESS STEEL DOOR SILLS, DRIVER/PASSENGER SIDE
E12
E22 BATTERY ({N) NATO
E30 BATTERY MASTER SWITCH, ONE-PIN
E41
E44
E47
E48
F21
F78 INTERIOR MIRROR
F80 WINDSHIELD WIPER + WASHER SYSTEM 2 STAGES W. INTV.
F81
G75
J13
J32
J53
J67 ANTI-THEFT ALARM
J93
L04 AUTOMATIC DIM-DIP LIGHT
L20
M04
M15 FUEL/WATER SEPARATOR AND LUBRICATION PACKAGE
M65
M86
P36 TARPAULIN
P84
Q11 LONGITUDINAL MEMBER REINFORCEMENT
S01
S11 DRIVER SEAT, HYDRAULIC, IRSINGHAUSEN
S18
S25 CO-DRIVER'S SEAT ARMREST
S35 ARMREST FOR DRIVER AND FRONT PASSENGER SEATS
S45
S51
S70 DRIVER SAFETY BAR
T05 ELECTRIC STEP, FRONT PASSENGER DOOR
T24
U16
U20 OMISSION PRE-INSTALLATION F. SEATING CONFIGURATION
U26 PRE-INSTALLATION F. SEATING CONFIGURATION 2/2/3
U35 SEAT COVER, ZOOM 7223
U50
U54
U61 SEATING, PASS.COMP.,2ND BENCH SEAT, 2ND ROW
U70 ROTATING SEAT IN FIRST ROW, PASSENGER COMP.
X82
Y15 FOLDABLE SHOPPING BOX
Y27 SECOND CHOCK
Y36 JACK
Y61
Y71
Y83
Z15
Z30 SCOPE OF SUPPLY GERMAN ARMED FORCES (BW)
Z98 BILL OF MATERIALS ORDER
6031
6031
06-26-2019 01:08 AM
TheJoker Your knowledge and willingness to help is beyond amazing, Truktor! Thank you!
06-25-2019 08:50 AM
TRUKTOR I put a couple of large nylon flat washers in the corners on 'dry out' days, to get air flow in behind the gasket. It helped in the lower corners, but didn't seem to have any effect on the rest of the perimeter.

I'd pull the washers out when things dried up, and did not have them in place when driving in the rain, as they would just open the door for more water. I also tried them all along the bottom edge, but it was a pain, so that didn't last long.

I put plastic putty knives between the gasket and the body at times, and even used a heat gun along with them to try and get it all dry. This was overboard, but I was trying to get to the bottom of the problem.The putty knives were much easier to place than the washers.

You are exactly right- the angle of the A-pillar puts the trough at a level below that of the lip, creating a pond, potentially.

Of course, virtually all Automotive A-pillars slope back, and usually much more than on a square cab UNIMOG, but they collectively seem to seal better. Most every windshield has more of a rake than the UNIMOG, and the glass is curved as well, unlike the flat UNIMOG glass.

And yet, my Ford truck, during windshield replacement, shows zero signs of rust or paint damage anywhere around the windshield, with a similar type of pinch weld.

As mentioned before, another surprise was how much water became trapped on the inner groove of the I-beam shaped gasket, on the glass side.

The whole bottom chord off the gasket was full of water, and it extended up both sides a few inches, so the bottom of the windshield was essentially submerged in about 1"-2" of water. This didn't seem to have affected the windshield at that point, but fogging might be the ultimate result.

The factory has changed their stamping dies to put the dimple in, which pretty closely matches the Hellgeth's retrofit dimple. I'm sure they help, but since the bottom of the windshield is straight, and does not necessarily drain towards the corners, I wonder if the problem is 100% solved?

In looking at a slew of photos, it seems like the earliest square cabs had a thinner windshield gasket - less rubber width, looking at the face of the gasket, and they later moved to a fatter gasket. It is hard to be positive of this, but the photos seem to show that.

I wonder if the newest gaskets have any profile changes, aside from the cut-out notches on the corners ?
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