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Old Smart Keys on eBay/For Sale

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I was wondering why people sell old smart keys on eBay, when they are essentially junk and not re-programmable. (Not 100% sure I buy that. They keys are man made, not from some high power.)

Do people buy them just to have them, or is it mostly people running scams?

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If something happens to your key fob shell, but the internals are good, you can just transfer the internals to another shell. That's why people are selling shells.
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also, on rare occasions it may be possible to transplant an IC chip from your/donor key over to the ebay key

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The ebay keys are keys stolen at car auctions.
When management doesn't care, employees who prepare cars for auctions steal 2nd keys, manuals and tow hooks, so they can cash 10 bucks on the key that can cost new owner uo to $700 to replace.
Those keys are re-programmable, but in US nobody does it legally, while sending ignition module to Europe for programming the key is not efficient.
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If something happens to your key fob shell, but the internals are good, you can just transfer the internals to another shell. That's why people are selling shells.
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also, on rare occasions it may be possible to transplant an IC chip from your/donor key over to the ebay key

OK, I didn't think about that. Using it if you messed up the casing on it. Good point.

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The ebay keys are keys stolen at car auctions.
When management doesn't care, employees who prepare cars for auctions steal 2nd keys, manuals and tow hooks, so they can cash 10 bucks on the key that can cost new owner uo to $700 to replace.
Those keys are re-programmable, but in US nobody does it legally, while sending ignition module to Europe for programming the key is not efficient.
See, I figured that the keys could be re-programmed. It just doesn't make sense how something made by man and a computer couldn't be?

Why doesn't anyone in the US re-program them? Is it some kind of law?

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There is theft-prevention law with US parts selling.
It goes as far as transmission plate.
I am not sure who's law it is, but I believe it was made by MB USA.


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See, I figured that the keys could be re-programmed. It just doesn't make sense how something made by man and a computer couldn't be?

Why doesn't anyone in the US re-program them? Is it some kind of law?
Proprietary software. copyright issues. I'm sure there is hardware /software out there that can do this. It also comes down to the cost of the hardware equipment, risk, etc. I recall reading an article/youtube about some locksmith business in Florida, having the ability to reprogram w163 fobs but that's the extent of it. I believe your suv needs to be physically present for them to do the re-programming (going by memory...)
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It is not just a software, but you need a "spider" connector to grab the chip by all the legs for programming.
Such spiders are not easy to buy in US and the process is time consuming.
The guy I know in US says the process is so complicated, that he'd have to charge close what new knob cost.
Doing 1 key at the time can't be cost-efficient.
Than I know legal locksmith in Poland, who does that way cheaper, but than in Poland $10/hr is decent pay.
Than just becouse the locksmith has legal business doesn't mean he has to have MB licence for it.


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Amazing, the complications of computers!

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