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Local miscreant stole a CLK 500 convertible, ran it head on into a beverage delivery truck, totaled it, put his accomplice in the hospital, and ran off (not sure if they have caught him yet).

It is my impression that these cars are almost impossible to steal without the correct key. The local newspaper (which has never been noted for accurate reporting) used the words "carjacking" and "stolen" interchangeably, but no mention was made of the owner being assaulted, so my feeling is this was a theft.

If the thief did not have the key, how the heck could he have done this? These cars are impossible to hot wire, and there's no "master key" (other than maybe at the dealership, if it exists at all), so does it stand to reason that he either stole the key first or perhaps it was an inside job to get an insurance payoff?

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I agree with you. Without the key fob I can not see how it could be done. Unless the key was left in the vehicle, or was stolen from the owner or there was a second fob floating around somewhere. I know I came across an electronic key fob when cleaning that went to a vehicle I sold a few years back. I guess if someone had that fob/key and knew where that vehicle was located they could steel it! I too would question it being an insurance scam.
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Maybe a carjacking, maybe a cloned key, maybe a DWI dressed up, who knows?

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I don't think it was anything as difficult to accomplish as a cloned key. It is my understanding that these keys are pretty darn secure, and I base that on the multiple threads about keys on this forum, 99% of which result in the last post containing the dreaded phrase "see your dealer, and take your wallet." The few successful key repairs - not clones, repairs - invariably start with a legitimate key and involve de-soldering and re-soldering surface mount chips which skills are light years beyond the capabilities (or even the wildest fever dreams) and level of pre-planning abilities of someone whose criminal activities (to date) consist of shoplifting, simple assault, purse snatching, bicycle theft and similar crimes of simple opportunity. Perhaps he has raised his game, but I doubt it . . . this would be kind of a LARGE leap.

(In this corner, we have Mercedes-Benz's large, long established team of well paid captive wild-eyed mad scientists, electronics experts, and security experts, well funded, decades of experience and subject to severe consequences if they screw up, holding innumerable patents and trade secrets, and in that corner, we have Team B, a junior grade petty criminal with utterly zero discernible skills or qualifications. Team A's task is to make a secure system to guard their product, cost is no object, Team B's task is to find a way to defeat Team A's best efforts in ten or fifteen seconds, using no technology more advanced, more expensive than, or harder to acquire than a paper clip and with no technical or "inside" knowledge whatsoever. Ladies and gentlemen, place your bets . . . )

He either found or stole the key fob, or this was an inside (a/k/a "insurance theft") job.

Maybe I'll buy the salvage and get an un-cracked trunk lid brake light from it. Sic transit gloria mundi.

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If it has KeylessGo, it's possible to do a "man in the middle" hack. Basically, you use a set of signal repeaters that will allow the key to communicate with the car from a distance. Thieves are doing this with all sort of "keyless" cars, and since MBZ's KeylessGo system doesn't use rolling codes like the ignition switch, it;s even possible to clone a key that way.
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Dibs on the engine, ECU, transmission and back axle for a kit car project...
You got it ;-)

Problem is that it was whacked pretty hard in the front, so most of the stuff on the front of the engine is smashed.

Passenger refused to go to the hospital but had no choice and had to be extracted (and arrested), driver still at large.


https://www.news-journalonline.com/n...r-before-wreck

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You got it ;-)

Problem is that it was whacked pretty hard in the front, so most of the stuff on the front of the engine is smashed.

Passenger refused to go to the hospital but had no choice and had to be extracted (and arrested), driver still at large.


https://www.news-journalonline.com/n...r-before-wreck

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Good to see one can have that kind of smash up of front end and the driver could run away.
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Must have been wearing their seat belts
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