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I guess you could always explore the AGW coding options but even if you were able to make it a slave, I doubt the new Comand would be able to use the FM tuner from the rear instead of the integrated tuner.

Did you get it up and running otherwise? Perhaps better to just start rewiring the speakers, antenna etc.
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i cant used?
so the unit i purchased is useless
what shall i do wit it?
any buyer? Euro2500
Good luck with finding someone stupid enough buying this device from you. You got it for 1200 Euros despite everyone told you this most like won't work out and now you're trying to make more than a 100 % profit off of your misstep? Didn't you write earlier that you like to explore and learn and that 1200 Euros wouldn't be a problem? I guess your eyes were bigger than your wallet!
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Good luck with finding someone stupid enough buying this device from you. You got it for 1200 Euros despite everyone told you this most like won't work out and now you're trying to make more than a 100 % profit off of your misstep? Didn't you write earlier that you like to explore and learn and that 1200 Euros wouldn't be a problem? I guess your eyes were bigger than your wallet!
I did not notice that, I could have offered 1200 but I say 500 Euros now.
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no guys

dont worry... i have not even get the item yet.. it has been paid but is being sent by EMS.. probably will be here next mon/tue... i m very confident that it will work.
wont be selling it anyway... if i m serious to sell it off, it wont be in this forum anyway..

so mackhack, in actual fact, after taking some measurements, i found that my eyeball weights approximately 7.5 grams and measures approximately 24.7 millimeters in its anterior-to-posterior diameter BUT my wallet is pretty thick inside, it measures 100 X 125 X 25.7 mm.. at least the thickness is similar to my eyeball diameter.

I will post a step by step and pictorial guide to share once i have made it work

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Making rear AGW a MOST Slave

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Hello
I m in need of help here.. Can we do somthing about retrofitting a NEW COMAND NTG2.5?
Since there is already an built in AGW in the new COMAND is there a way to make my existing AUDIO GATEWAY N93/1 to be slave instead of master? If this can be programmed then i do not need to extend the antenna and speakers wires from the back trunk to the front to the NEW COMAND. Is this possible?

I understand that in a MOST ring, only one device can be made master.
In my case currently, the AGW is the MASTER and my existing COMAND(old) is slave.

PLEASE HELP, i m sure there are some experts or great engineers here!

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Hi Rick,
Wish you best of luck in getting this to work - I'd want to know too.

The AGW in the NTG1 system is the MOST master while the AGW in the BD0880 unit is built-in as you have rightly summarised. Was your NTG1 Command-APS factory installed or upgraded from Audio-20? If upgraded from Audio-20, then you can just as easily swap out the Becker Command-APS with the newer Melco BD0880 and leave the cable harness/AGW redundant.

I'm not sure why you'd want to utilize the rear AGW unless you have a H-K Logic7.

I've noticed that the BD-0880 has a set of jumpers in the rear, perhaps it can be set to be a slave and the AGW by-passed? Someone might be able to get you the pin-diagrams for the BD-0880 to see if this can be done.

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Has anyone figured out from EPC if the Sound amplifier is different for the new Comand? After a quick look I can find two parts that seem to be valid for 527 (Euro Comand) or 810. It is a bit difficult to read EPC when the same option code has been used for the old and the new Comand.

From the wiring diagrams I conclude that the NTG2.5 sound amplifier is a completely different part, it is even named differently. It could be simpler to replace the amplifier to avoid re-routing speaker wires but the radio antenna etc. would still have to be routed to the front.
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hi MoonDragon67
Thanks for your comment.

maybe you could help me.
My car W211 MY2002 was originally fitted with somthing looks exactly like Audio 20 but it is not with CD instead with cassette. Is this consider Audio20?

If my Audio20 Cassette is similar to Audio20 CD, then I will do like you said, leave the AGW in truck redundant.

The reason I wanna use the AGW is because I tought this will safe me from extending the speakers wires and antenna wires to the NEW NTG2.5 COMAND/BD0880.

If you are right,
(1) does that means that I will still maintain the AGW as MOST master? and my NEW NTG2.5 COMAND (BD0880) as slave?
(2) I just ignore the speakers wiring connectors at the back of the NEW NTG2.5 COMAND?

If this is so, then it is sure gonna be much easier.

Please let me know ok?

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You have had the Audio 20 CC unit in the car originally, not the Audio 20 CD. Audio 20 CC would use AGW equally as a Comand or Audio 50 APS and the tuner plus the audio amp and speaker wires then are at the trunk. This makes the old Comand retrofit easy but not the new NTG2.5 device.
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