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Old 06-30-2008, 10:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dealing a B200 T

Hi

There is a possibility that I may join the B Class community soon. Just test drove a 200 MT and a 200T CVT tonight.

I'm currently driving a 92 300D (W124) and the 200 MT appeared surprisingly agile. But the torque of the 200T was more to my liking.

I'm not used to deal new cars (the last one was a 1978 Rabbit diesel) : the 200T CVT has premium package and metalic paint and, at the MSRP, the dealer is trowing four winter tyres (withhout rims). I'm planing to buy and the financing rate (2,5%) is very interesting.

Considering the time of the year (low inventory [like the early Fords, you can have any color as long as it's black] and soon arrival of 2009 models), may I expect obtaining a reduction on the MSRP ?

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Old 07-01-2008, 01:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Denrac & welcome to the forum. Glad to hear that you are considering joining the clan.

You should expect to get quit a good discount of a new car that is in stock (but old years model) with a new model year in the pipiline. Especially if they are limited colour & specification wise. If you are content with the model they are offering make them an offer some way below their asking price & don't forget to insist on some accessories to be thrown in with the deal.

Bear in mind though that savings made now may be lost when you come to sell this car as some may perceive it as being a year older than it actually is due to the year / model change.

Good luck on your purchase.

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Old 07-01-2008, 05:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you kdbcom. A year old model is not a concern with me : I usually keep my cars for a long time (as long as the rust allow them to be driven safely ).

I'll try a least to get the metallic paint off the price : black is not my first choice. I'll keep you informed.
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Old 07-01-2008, 06:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum Denrak. If you want the peace of mind of knowing you just got the best price possible, do the following:

- get the dealers cost price from Car Cost Canada - Home Page for the car and extras you want. You pay for this service - but you will save thousands of $.
- note the MSRP mark up is usually about 10% on the car and 15% on the extras.
- Go to the dealer with a print out of the carcostcanada numbers and your written offer, including your telephone number. Tell the dealer you are ready to buy a car today. Note that dealers have to meet monthly, quarterly and annual sales quotas - so end of the month or end of quarter are the best times to get a good price. Offer $ 1000 above dealer cost ( profit ) for the car and extras. If the dealer stalls - just walk out and advise they have 24 hours to telephone you, to accept the offer.
- if you have a trade-in, establish the wholesale price beforehand, from the library, bank or kelly blue book - so you know exactly how much / little the trade is worth in the deal.
If the first dealer does not accept your offer, then fax it to all other dealers in your area.
I have used this method to buy several cars - it works.
Enjoy your new car.
PS. Do NOT pay any 'documentation fee'. This is straight profit and is a deal breaker.
PPS. You can buy a low mileage demonstrator, in new condition, for about $ 5000 under new price!

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Old 07-01-2008, 01:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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if you are not fussy about color and certain options, you can get a great deal. the 2009 models are arriving end of july, start of august.
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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MB advert in today's paper offers $ 1500 cashback on the sale of a new B class.
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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PPS. You can buy a low mileage demonstrator, in new condition, for about $ 5000 under new price!
Anyone have more input on this? I priced both a new and a demo 2008 B200 Turbo today and was offered the same discount off of MSRP on both with the difference on the demo having the freight/PDI removed (as to be expected). If I'm looking at an almost new demo (say 2k) what type of discount would you think would be reasonable to ask for? Any/all input from those in the GTA would be appreciated!
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
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That's it A new car: 2008 B200 Turbo, cosmos black, orient beige, premium package and CVT. Will by at home friday Got it with four premium snow tyres and "almost" the metallic paint price off MSRP. According to my calculations and Car Cost Canada, it qualifies for "a fair dealer markup".

Speaking of price, a friend of mine was shocked when, in 1964, his father bought a Mercedes for roughly the same price as a Mustang. My grandson could have the same reaction today .

Thanks all for your precious expertise.
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
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According to my calculations and Car Cost Canada, it qualifies for "a fair dealer markup".
Any chance you could share your Car Cost Canada report?

Congrats on the purchase though, from the looks of things we'll be joining the club soon... my wife test drove the B200 today and she is in love.
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