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Old 10-15-2007, 02:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Any Experiences of " Steer Control " ???

With winter just around the corner (not that we tend to have any snow around here) and the onset of ice on the roads I wonder if anyone has had experience of the "Steer Control" steering assistance system. I understand that it is supposed to vibrate the steering wheel to help to counter in the correct direction. I presume that if it vibrates on say the left hand side you pull down on that side but I don't recall seeing any information about this. Is it a heavy vibration and does the system really work ?? I have never noticed it working on my B. Any comments would be appreciated.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, I felt it once in a corner when there was some sand on the road.
It doesn't vibrate, it nudges in the right direction and steering in the opposite direction becomes heavier.
You feel a slight push/nudge encouraging you to steer in the right direction.
It was very short but I never lost control and the car stayed on track.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Dennis I will look out for that.
(it's not clear in the manual is it)
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi there, i have also tried many times to make it happen but nothing... Trying to break on wet road from one side, tried to brake on dusty road from one side... nothing yet... i also was wondering if this system exists... but in other side, i wish i won't need it !!!

Also i have tried to understand the BAS system (brake assistance)... which also i cannot understand how it works. I have tried to brake instantly with maximum force, but then the pedal seems less sensitive comparing to normal braking...

Who knows... probably these "small daemons" work undercover for our safety..
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks for bringing this topic up keith. I always wanted to ask you about it.
I tried to test this feature few times (on the snow/sand) and I have never felt any 'force' on the steering wheel. ESP joined in during under/over -steer but that was all.

btw. dont you think that ESP is joining in too late and too violent? this is my first car with ESP and maybe it's only my feeling
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Concerning ESP

I have to pull out onto a local busy main road, that is on a curve and an incline, on a regular basis. You have to accelerate hard to get into a gap in the traffic.

On every other car I've had this is a tricky (and dangerous) manouvre as the wheels either spin like blazes or the engine seems to bang back and forwards on it's mountings as the tyres fight for grip. (? axle tramp?)

The B class is the only car that I've had that you can pull out in safety, even in the wet you still get traction so I have to say ,that for me, it works & works well.

Can't say I have noticed any problems with the ESP but my B is the auto version & I don't know if it is set up any differently to the manual model.

I like it (but I am aware that on a lot of the more sporting cars now you can turn it off)
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The point where ESP takes over is always difficult. A bit too much and the car is no fun to drive (some people like to slide sometimes) but not enough and the car is unsafe.
I've only had ESP helping me once and I am not sure if I could control the car without it...
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I've never felt any of the steer-control that's in the B but the ESP works all the time in deep snow and on icy conditions. I'd like to know what steer-control feels like but you'd have to find the right test pad to play with that device.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have never felt it - I like the ESP but whis it could be turned off - it fights to the death !

Which is good in an emergency, but with front drive cars & hand brakes - I like snowy road parking and cornering with a little <cough cough> help from the hand brake -

The whole bloody dash lights up as the ESP tries to stop the rear end slide ... <sigh>
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Believe me, you don't want to be able to turn ESP off in a B-Class......which after all is based upon the A-Class, which in turn failed the Moose (Elch) test in 1997, necessitating ESP on all of them.

Our friends at the German B-Forum call their cars BElch, a reference to the Elch test....and well, Belch sounds a bit funny too.
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