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Old 01-21-2008, 07:41 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Most engines have the same basic components, oil rings, scraper rings.compression rings and lifters and pistons and on and on.
But North American car manufactures rarely stretch the oil changes as long as the European car manufactures do.
My B was going for 25,000 km on the on board computer calculation before the first oil change.
I don't have an answer as to why there is such a huge difference between manufactures seeing as all engines are wearing.
Normal wear on our cars is always occurring on all engines at a fairly steady rate.
The cost of a rebuild is huge.
It should not be a problem if you plan to change your B after a few years. But I plan to keep mine for a long time, so for me, more oil changes gives me that peace of mind and should save me $$ down the road. Cheers, Derek

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Old 02-05-2008, 08:35 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Hi George,
Guenter now says that he will lift his B next time he changes the oil.
There are no covers to be removed on Canadian B's. But if there were, it's very easy to do because the covers are all plastic and held with simple screws.
This post discusses other ways to extract the oil and all methods work and none are difficult.
Don't forget to add your long extension(10") and your medium extension(5") to get the required 15" total in reaching the oil filter on petrol(gas) engines.
Diesels have the filter located higher and easier to access.
Good luck to all on your next DIY oil change.
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:55 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Hi George,
Guenter now says that he will lift his B next time he changes the oil.
There are no covers to be removed on Canadian B's. But if there were, it's very easy to do because the covers are all plastic and held with simple screws.
As Derek points out theere are no covers that need removal to get at the oil drain plug. This is quite unlike other MB's like my 300E, 190E and 240D. Having a look at the underside of the B200 while up at the dealers hoist (door rubber had come lose on two of the doors plus a annoying squeeking noise when turning the steering wheel) I noticed how everything (eg alternator etc) was very exposed to the elements.... don't know how that will work out in the long term.

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Old 02-05-2008, 10:59 AM   #74 (permalink)
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But the idea of extracting the oil out and replacing with new is a super and easy way to protect your investment.
I don't know. When I looked at my drained oil recently I noticed a fair bit of grey 'sludge' which I used to get on my VW's but not noticeably so with my more recent MB's. In any case, I was happy to get this sediment out and away from the engine. I'm still a great fan of 'draining' rather than 'extracting' engine oil.

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Old 02-05-2008, 02:30 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Hi Guenter,
I share your views on removing oil. I'll always drain it from the bottom if I can.
I also like to look around and see what's about to fall off.

But these other methods have some merit for those not as able to get their B up on ramps.
On my last oil change, the oil was naturally dark with about 10,000 kms on it, but absolutely no sludge or thickness in the old oil.

ps. your message and Bill's notes made the service screen a quick and easy view. Derek
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:18 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Hi George,
Guenter now says that he will lift his B next time he changes the oil.
There are no covers to be removed on Canadian B's. But if there were, it's very easy to do because the covers are all plastic and held with simple screws.
This post discusses other ways to extract the oil and all methods work and none are difficult.
Don't forget to add your long extension(10") and your medium extension(5") to get the required 15" total in reaching the oil filter on petrol(gas) engines.
Diesels have the filter located higher and easier to access.
Good luck to all on your next DIY oil change.

many thanks Derek... i have some months yet, till my car reaches 2years old so when i try it i'll let you know..as for my mileage..is still very low.. just 5600Km...

P.S. What kind of screw is the oil and the filter screw ?

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Filter = 27 mm.
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:56 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Hi George,
Check your WIS sheet, it has a good pic of the filter element and canister.
If you can read this post completely most of these questions should be well explained.
The canister that holds the filter element is all plastic and the nut to remove it is molded into the top.
The size is 1+1/16" socket (or 27mm) I forget the size of the drain plug but maybe Guenter remembers. It might be 13 or 14 or 15mm. It has a copper washer, making it different from other bolts in the pan area.
When you see it, all becomes obvious.
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P.S. What kind of screw is the oil and the filter screw ?

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oil drain screw is 13mm ... never saw one that was different. Note, it's exactly in the middle of the oil pan betwen two other support screws.

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So Mobil 1 0W40 Euro Formula is on the list of approved oils for the B 200, right? Got to do a change this weeekend.
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