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Old 05-30-2008, 04:30 PM   #131 (permalink)
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I use Shell nowadays, and the car react really well to it. Much better than Ultramar, can't talk about Husky since we don't have it over here ! (in the east)

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Old 05-30-2008, 04:40 PM   #132 (permalink)
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I use Shell nowadays, and the car react really well to it. Much better than Ultramar, can't talk about Husky since we don't have it over here ! (in the east)

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Daniel,

My last fill up was with Shell V-Power. The car does like Shell. It's been hit or miss when I fill up with Chevron.

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Old 05-30-2008, 04:49 PM   #133 (permalink)
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I usually alternate between Chevron ( it is the closest to home ) and Husky which offer E10 mid-grade for the cost of regular gas.
Ethanol has about 70% of the energy content of gasoline; therefore, as E10 has only 10% ethanol by volume and this provides 7% of the energy that pure gasoline would provide. So, using E10 is better for winter driving, and for octane and emissions, but it provides only 97% of the energy content of pure gasoline. Considering that I run on a mixture, I am probably paying a 1.5% mileage penalty which I believe I can easily make up with driving style, cruise control, tire pressure, not to mention the price savings on the mid-grade gas.
Now, E 85 with 85% ethanol would present a whole new price / performance calculation - it would have only about 75% of the energy of a unit of gasoline and if it were the same cost as gasoline, it would therefore cost 1/3 more to use E 85!

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Old 05-31-2008, 08:44 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Your right Bill. My past trip to Virginia included filling up with 10% ethanol at all gas stops.
I haven't noticed a difference in performance from brand to brand, but I'd be happy to hear what others feel.
With our fluctuating weather here in Quebec, we're sometimes more worried about bad gas in the stations tank.
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If you got that record making gas mileage using 10% ethanol maybe its time for me to jump unto the green band wagon. Did the car have any pinging while climbing hills under load??? Also what is the octane rating of the fuels with the ethanol?
It would be interesting to place the car on a dyno to check power with different grades and ethanol mixtures.

What other countries are using ethanol in their fuel?

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Old 06-01-2008, 06:45 AM   #135 (permalink)
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We have gold in ours, Bill, judging by the price
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:51 AM   #136 (permalink)
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We have gold in ours, Bill, judging by the price
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you might have gold in the fuel but you are paying a platinum price

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Old 06-01-2008, 02:41 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Soon, we will all be paying the platinum price. The US premium is almost always 93 octane, at least at the stations we stopped at. In Canada it's almost always 91 octane for premium(super).

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ps: Mike and I do get some good 0 l/100km rides in though.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:24 PM   #138 (permalink)
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I topped up today and averaged the tank I reported above with today's: 6.8 overall on the OBC versus 7.1 calculated....so that's over 850 km or so. Otherwise the top up would have been a 6.0, which I know is WAY optimistic (6.6 on the OBC). So the discrepancy was only 0.3 this time....though I don't think the car was as full as it was last time.

I buy at Chevron, which is 92 here. They also sell a 94 which is sweet juice, better than Eurosuper 98.

I should be scoring three 0.0 days this week.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:37 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Cool Is Point Roberts WA...

Still a popular place for gas?
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:55 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Crossing into the USA since late 2001 has been as bad as crossing into East Germany in the 70s or 80s, so I doubt anyone does cross-border gas trips any more. Getting back into Canada isn't easy anymore either!
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