» Site Navigation
» Other Sites
Google Links

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Wheel & Tire Center

Sponsors


Go Back   Benzworld.org - Mercedes Benz Discussion Forum > Mercedes-Benz Sedan Forums > W245 B-Class
Register Home Forum Photo Gallery Active Topics Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


       
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-25-2007, 06:42 AM   #41 (permalink)
BenzWorld Extremist
 
Derek Lecours's Avatar
 
Date registered: Dec 2006
Vehicle: B 200 & Audi A6
Location: Lac Hughes, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 1,134
No two countries are delivered with the same equipment. Quick release seats, no quick release seats. Folding mirrors, no folding mirrors. Spare tire, no spare tire. Full sized spare(Australia), no full sized spare. Light packages( Europe only), no light packages.It goes on and on. We've gone over this so many times!
Derek Lecours is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 10-25-2007, 08:15 AM   #42 (permalink)
BenzWorld Extremist
 
kdbcom's Avatar
 
Date registered: Feb 2006
Vehicle: B200 CDI SE
Location: Surrey UK
Posts: 1,165
Yep your right Derek & very pointless it seems to. Regarding that seat it would probably cost them less than a couple of pounds (under 5 Can$) to give you the removable seats.

Still if you wanted them easily removable you have room to replace the torx bolt with a bit of studding (or a longer bolt with its head cut off) put on a couple of washers & secure with a wing nut.

It must cost much M/B more to make the different parts for each country than to keep to a standard. Listen to Henry Ford Mercedes & 'Mass' produce.

They would do well to rip a Renault Scenic apart to find out how to put together a 'real' MPV

Last edited by kdbcom : 10-25-2007 at 08:19 AM.
kdbcom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2007, 11:01 AM   #43 (permalink)
BenzWorld Member
 
deheld's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jun 2007
Vehicle: W245 B-Class 180 CDI
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 259
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdbcom View Post
They would do well to rip a Renault Scenic apart to find out how to put together a 'real' MPV
WHoa !! Slow down. Ever driven a Scenic ??
That's an example of poor building quality if I've ever seen.
It's rattling from the factory. Windows that roll down in the middle of the night when the car should be locked. Flimsy materials, etc.
deheld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2007, 11:21 AM   #44 (permalink)
BenzWorld Extremist
 
kdbcom's Avatar
 
Date registered: Feb 2006
Vehicle: B200 CDI SE
Location: Surrey UK
Posts: 1,165
Iv'e had 2 (Mk1 New shape & Mk2) and done a good number of miles in them I found them very good & very reliable and the storage spaces knocks spots of the B.The handling was good (Mk 1 with wider wheels however) & so was the fuel consumption. I had none of the falling off bits that you sometimes hear about. I would say that both my Scenics were vastly more reliable than my first B class with a total length of ownership of both cars over 5 years.
In many ways I would say they were a better car than the B.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg scenic 1.JPG (68.0 KB, 0 views)
File Type: jpg scenic2.JPG (84.4 KB, 1 views)
File Type: jpg scenic3.JPG (68.4 KB, 0 views)

Last edited by kdbcom : 10-25-2007 at 12:30 PM.
kdbcom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2007, 12:28 PM   #45 (permalink)
BenzWorld Extremist
 
Mike Tee's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2007
Vehicle: see signature
Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
Posts: 905
Send a message via Yahoo to Mike Tee
I would agree about the versatility, and they had a "Keyless-Go" type system for free on the one we owned in France in 2005 (three week ownership!). Mercedes charges idiotic money for this option on their higher spec cars.

It was totally reliable and tight over the 8000 km we drove it.

The B has a lot to live up to, in my experience.
__________________
2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200
2005 smart fortwo cdi pulse cabriolet, loaded
1966 Peugeot 404 Coupé Injection
1989 Peugeot 405 DL, 366,000 km
Mike Tee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2007, 11:29 PM   #46 (permalink)
BenzWorld Member
 
deheld's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jun 2007
Vehicle: W245 B-Class 180 CDI
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 259
I decided between the B-Class, VW Touran and the Renault Scenic.
The thing that put me off the Scenic was the poor interior quality. Poor materials and poor fabrication. The B is built like a rock (or like a mercedes) on the inside.
You're right about storage space. In the B there's almost none and in the Scenic one could loose stuff in all those compartments. But since it's just me and my wife we don't need that.
deheld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2007, 01:30 AM   #47 (permalink)
BenzWorld Extremist
 
kdbcom's Avatar
 
Date registered: Feb 2006
Vehicle: B200 CDI SE
Location: Surrey UK
Posts: 1,165
It's a pity that the B class, coming into the market so late, didn't incorporate all the good parts & ideas of the other vehicles in it's class.
kdbcom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2007, 01:53 AM   #48 (permalink)
BenzWorld Member
 
deheld's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jun 2007
Vehicle: W245 B-Class 180 CDI
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 259
Quote:
Originally Posted by kdbcom View Post
It's a pity that the B class, coming into the market so late, didn't incorporate all the good parts & ideas of the other vehicles in it's class.
True, the B is not only designed by engineers but also by accountants. And I fear that the last group had the biggest vote.
But still. The B doesn't compare to the other mercedes', but then again it wouldn't be fair to compare a Golf to a Passat or a Scenic to a Vel-Satis.
I still think that compared to other cars in it's class the B stands out very well. The car should be compared to the Touran, C-Max and Scenic, and although is not a knock-out winner I still think that the B wins on points.
deheld is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Benzworld.org - Mercedes Benz Discussion Forum > Mercedes-Benz Sedan Forums > W245 B-Class


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:53 PM.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0