Thank you foryour kind information.Unfortunately, I can't understand the German brochure. However,many ofthe phones listed are not common in the US. For example, Siemans is not a common cell phone in the US.What I am particularly interested in is bluetooth that will work properly with a PDA/phone. Do you have any information on this in English for the U.S.model ??
Hi, somebody at "Audio & Telematics" forum had ordered the bluetooth "cradle" for his US MB:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1246125&posts=2&fid=36
Is your PDA supporting the SAP? Is it common that PDAs support sim access profile? Most modern Nokias do support it but I haven't seen it on many other "normal" cellular phones.
It seems that no one really has any solid information on bluetooth for the new S Class. In fact,it may not even be available for a year after they come out. Type of phones that will work ? Do you really need a cradle if it's true bluetooth ? how much for the parts? No info at all available fromMB. It seems they haven't gotten it together yet as Acura did 3 years ago.
I certainly do not have any solid information but isn't the W221 phone system quite the same as for many other recent MB models like W211? At least the same option code here in Europe (W211 originally did have other options too). Likely standard in the US. I would expect the same phone compatibility and the same BT-support as seems to be appearing for other models with MOST audio.
If you have the option code 386 support (or similar in the US), my understanding is that you can install the same BT-support (the same HW) for a W221 as for a W211. My understanding is that with this BT-device installed, you can use any BT phone that supports SAP.
By the way, I don't understand what you mean by "true BT". I assume MB would never officially support a system where the cellular phone is transmitting through its own antenna. Then the only option is basically a true cellular phone installed in the car (like instead of the phone cradle on the 386 system) which would use your own handheld phone SIM card through BT SAP. This would be very same functionality as what you get with the Nokia 610 car kit phone (or the 616 car kit phone in SAP mode). I wonder if this actually means that CDMA-phones are not supported, which is no issue in Europe.
Perhaps you are after a hands free mode "only" where the handheld device would be active in the cellular mode, just the car audio system being used for audio. This would be like the Nokia 616 car kit phone in HF mode (I actually have the Nokia 616 in my car and use it in both of these modes).
The hands free support would make the BT support compatible with a wider set of equipment, compared to SAP only. But I doubt MB would support this "hands free only" mode (hands free or headset BT profile).
I'm quite happy with the SAP only support, if that appears to be the case since I have a number of different phones that do support SAP. Also I can keep my phone at my pocket, and don't need a charger connected like in the HF mode, and still have a good cellular signal through the external car antenna.
PS. My W221 is supposed to be delivered after some 6 months, I hope it would not take a full year before BT support becomes available, but wouldn't mind if it took 6 months ;)
Thank you for your detailed reply.What I amooking for is very simple. A Blue tooth PDA/phone that will be fully compatible with the new S class (221), whereby youradress book will apear on the screen, whereby you can use voice dialing commands, , whereby you can answer and dial your phone easily, etc. In other words- a pda/phone that can sit on my belt,or in a purse and be fully recognizable and compatible with the S class as a blue tooth phone.)just the way it works in loads of other cars including Acura for the past 3 years). None of the dealers I have spoken with have any idea whether or when this will work with the car.
The pdf file from CycloneRcr was interesting and helpful but lists phones only apparently available in Europe. Does anyone know if the new system in the S550 (W221) will support a U.S. based Treo 650 phone/PDA? If the car's system isn't adaptable to such, the phone key pad is really in the way. Does MB expect the purchaser of the car to move away from a cellphone/PDA currently in use by that purchaser and buy a new phone?
Hey, be reasonable. Assuming the car manufacturer does not want to (officially) support phone installations where the phone is actively transmitting inside the car with its own antenna, they would need to build a huge number of cradles to support all kinds of phones. Even building a cradle is not sufficient, you would have to have communications compatibility between the phone and the car system. Not all phone manufacturers have that capability and MB could not adapt to each phone type.
Obviously MB needs to restrict their phone support to a limited set of phone models from major phone manufacturers. SAP is the way that opens wider support. There is no longer a need to have a compatible cradle in the car. It is sufficient if the phone supports SAP, no cradle is needed.
If my phone was not compatible with the car I was about to buy, I would prefer to change my phone instead of only considering cars that are compatible with my current phone.
I had a look at Treo 650 capabilities and did not find SAP being supported, if that is the case, I doubt MB would support this phone. A Nokia N71, 9300 or 9500 could be an alternative. Certainly some other brands too but I’m not familiar with those. More SAP capable phones e.g. from this link (see details, some listed devices only support HF BT profile which is supported by N616, in addition to SAP):
http://www.europe.nokia.com/nokia/0,,83227,00.html?s=616&d=compatibility
PS. Considering infrared & noise filtering glasses, I have no personal experience but I’m afraid they do affect cell phone performance. These glasses are different from the normal tinted glasses. As an example, infrared filtering windscreen normally has an area without protection close to the rear view mirror for radio transmitters like those that are used for road toll payments (what ever they are, fortunately we don’t have road tolls here). A cell phone could well work at good coverage areas but could be severely affected at worse conditions.
Can ANYONE please explain why this is such a complicated issue for MB when companies like Acura have had very easy to use Bluetooth for years ? Why is this such a big deal?Don't they realize that acar of thiscost should surely be as capable as an Acura ? Does ANYONEknow how,or if., or what will work with the US Cars ? Does anyone from MB read these forums ?
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