Is the S Class still MB's Flagship?

[dahappybanana]

Jayhawk - 1/24/2006 12:36 PM

The SL & CL are sports cars, designed for a few, whereas the S-class is the flagship sedan, designed for high-end comfort. Sports cars can't, IMO, be flagship cars.

I will bet there are more S-class sedans sold than all SLs and CLs combined. Such rare breeds cannot be flagships, by definition.

Well I think for some companies a flagship can be a sports car, Nissan and the Skyline, Honda and the NSX, Ferarri and the Enzo, Aston-Martin and the Vanquish, Subaru and the WRX. (prolly the best example) Of course this is not the case for Mercedes, but I think it can be for some companies.

[Jayhawk]

dahappybanana - 1/24/2006 9:25 PM

Well I think for some companies a flagship can be a sports car, Nissan and the Skyline, Honda and the NSX, Ferarri and the Enzo, Aston-Martin and the Vanquish, Subaru and the WRX. (prolly the best example) Of course this is not the case for Mercedes, but I think it can be for some companies.

I would agree w/ Ferarri, Aston-Martin, Porche, and a few others, but Nissan and the Skyline, Honda and the NSX, and Subaru??? I don't think so.

[1996_S500]

Jayhawk - 1/24/2006 8:16 PM

I would agree w/ Ferarri, Aston-Martin, Porche, and a few others, but Nissan and the Skyline, Honda and the NSX, and Subaru??? I don't think so.

well, i test drove a nissan maxima last month, and on the window sticker, it clearly says: " NISSAN'S FLAGSHIP" So i guess that kinda rules out nissan. I get what you mean with ferrari, and aston though.

[CycloneRcr]

Hey, Ferrari and Aston are pure sport-car producers. Their top models cannot be anything else than a sport-car. These are not senseful examples[:)]

[dahappybanana]

Well what about Subaru,if the WRX is not their flagship then what is?

[CycloneRcr]

Yes, for Subaru we could consider Impreza as you said.

[Avantgarde 1998]

dahappybanana - 1/25/2006 12:48 AM

I believe the S-Class is the flagship of Mercedes-Benz. It has always been there and will always be there, and the articles on the new S-Class agree. The CL is a good car, but not flagship, it just isn't made to be a flagship. As for the CLS it certainly can be called the most stunning and a very great car in some of the respects of the S-Class, but as far as flagship goes I think it has to be the tried and true S-Class.

Add my vote.

[FLX]

Still to come back on flagship and its definition: meaning the best product that is made by a company (regardless of size,numbers of doors, toplessness, prize and how many they sell) I still think it is the CL (just check how the doors open (out and then forward) and close (ok other Merc's have it as well)

Enjoy this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2657336694201639712&q=top+gear

We could keep on discussing but at the end they're in same class, the weren't called SEC for nothing, it was the two doors version of the S and in my mind a coupe is always the better/nicer version of the fourdoor saloon, unfortunately nowadays the CLK isn't derived from the E-class anymore as the beautiful CE coupes of the eigthies.

[CycloneRcr]

I think CLK is derived from E-Class. Look at that rear design, interior and dashboard. It's all E-Class.

[Jayhawk]

FLX - 1/25/2006 4:19 PM

Still to come back on flagship and its definition: meaning the best product that is made by a company (regardless of size,numbers of doors, toplessness, prize and how many they sell) I still think it is the CL (just check how the doors open (out and then forward) and close (ok other Merc's have it as well)

Enjoy this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2657336694201639712&q=top+gear

We could keep on discussing but at the end they're in same class, the weren't called SEC for nothing, it was the two doors version of the S and in my mind a coupe is always the better/nicer version of the fourdoor saloon, unfortunately nowadays the CLK isn't derived from the E-class anymore as the beautiful CE coupes of the eigthies.

Great video! But the CL65 is not the flagship MB car.