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W220 Flex Discs, intermediate bearing and centering sleeves replacement

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W220 Flex Discs, intermediate bearing and centering sleeves replacement DIY

The W220 forum threads which deal with the propeller shaft maintenance usually focus on the replacement of the rubber flex discs, assuming that the other parts would be fine. Some members mentioned that the intermediate bearing and the centering sleeves are not subjected to the same torque that the discs have to absorb and would, therefore, seldom need replacement. My experience has not been the same, maybe because the front flex disc, the rear engine mount (transmission mount) and the engine mounts had been in a bad shape when I bought my vehicle. This could have caused more stress on the intermediate bearing and the centering sleeves. However, sooner or later all owners would have to deal with the rubber parts that do deteriorate when they age and seals that would start to leak when they become harder and change in shape. I agree with “Check Codes” (BW Elite member) who recommends the following regarding replacement of the intermediate bearing, the carrier and the rubber dust boot:

“It's likely that they are not going to last through two sets of flex discs, so you're going to have to redo this labour at a later date anyway. Hence my suggestion to replace them. Thus, if you are planning this task as preventative maintenance, then buy both flex discs, the center bearing, carrier and dust boot, and do it all at once. In my humble opinion, that's the best practice here”.

The W220 Mercedes-Benz has a two-piece propeller shaft that couples to the transmission and rear axle with rubber flex discs. The main function of these discs is to absorb driveline shock which is caused by the tremendous torque that the engine generates. The front piece (10) and the rear piece (35) can telescope or be seperated at a sliding connection. This is held in place by an intermediate bearing (50) in a rubber bushing which is supported by a metal carrier (45). Both the differential and the transmission have centering rods which fit into centering bushings or sleeves (15 & 40) at the ends of the propeller shaft. It seems that the centering sleeve consists of a small bronze bush mounted in rubber within an outer sleeve.



The propeller shaft is subjected to the following wear:

• The rubber flex discs do eventually crack. That is the most-likely source of driveline vibration and noise. It could cause severe damage when they fail.

• The grease of the sealed intermediate bearing eventually breaks down, causing the bearing to squeal and seize if ignored. Excessive play could cause vibrations. Some members reported that the driveline vibration which they noticed went away after the intermediate bearing and carrier of their vehicles had been replaced. The intermediate bearing should spin freely. If it binds, squeaks, or grinds, its grease is probably dead -- the bearing should be replaced.

• The bearing is suspended in a rubber bushing, which also has a limited service life — the rubber dries out, cracks, and no longer adequately supports the intermediate bearing.

• The rubber boot which seals the splined connection between the two parts could deteriorate causing the grease to leak.

• The centering sleeves could wear at their sealing lips. The rubber becomes harder and shrinks away from the centering rods towards the wall to which it is attached. The internal diameter of the seal thus increases and causes a leak at the rod. A W124 WIS mentions that this could also be a source of vibration: “During test drive of vehicles with manual transmission, check whether vibrations are showing up when decelerating from a high speed. These vibrations cannot be eliminated by balancing nuts. In such cases, check whether the centering sleeve is filled with an adequate quantity of grease and whether the propeller shaft is guided free of play in centering sleeve, and renew parts, if required. Prior to assembly fill centering sleeves with approx. 6 g of multi-purpose grease according to page 267 of Specifications for Service Products.”

• The U-joint is also sealed. It will eventually dry out and need to be replaced.

Vibrations that transmit into the interior, especially at the rear console section, could be very annoying.

Examining the wear on the propeller shaft of my S500

I was not aware of any driveshaft vibrations on my vehicle. After my dealer had pointed out that the rubber flex discs needed replacement, I decided to examine all the parts of the propeller shaft.

• The front rubber flex disc of my S500 had severe cracks. I was alarmed by the fact that a small portion on the front side had already broken off. This could not have been seen because the front view of the disc is obscured by the transmission parts. I was also surprised that it had not transmitted into vibrations yet. I guess that could have been the next stage before it fails.



• When I inspected the intermediate bearing from below, I saw signs of dry grease deposits on the outside of the bearing as well as an indication of play (I do realise that the bearing would have play because it is fitted into a rubber bushing. I noticed play in the bearing itself). The turning and listening test after removal revealed a soft grinding noise. That confirmed that the grease of the bearing had indeed broken down, although it had not started to squeal yet.

• The rubber bushing of the carrier seemed to be fine.

• Deposits around the rubber boot at the spline connection indicated that it might need replacement. It shows as the darker colouring on the right side of the hump on the front propeller shaft in the picture below.



• Although the centering sleeves appeared to be fine, I discovered that all the grease had leaked out. The picture shows no grease on the inside of the bushing (the WIS recommends 6 grams). A measurement of the internal diameter of the rubber sealing slip confirmed an increase of 1mm in comparison to the rubber sealing slip of the new centering sleeve. This is confirmed by the picture: one can see the inner wall of the bushing of the old centering sleeve when pictured at a right angle, while it is not as clearly visible in the picture of the replacement sleeve. I came to the conclusion that the leak was caused by the increase in the internal diameter of the aging sealing slip. The rubber also felt a little bit harder than the rubber of the replacement sleeves.





• The U-joint seemed to be fine.

Aim, disclaimer and acknowledgements

This humble contribution was written by a novice and is aimed at the novice DIY ’r who prefers to use a single document as a guide when doing his or her chores. I am not a technician. In fact, this is an account of my first attempt to refurbish a propeller shaft. It does not intend to replace the official Workshop Instruction Sheets.

The data contained herein are furnished for information only and are believed to be reliable. However, I cannot assume responsibility for the results obtained by others over whose methods I have no control. It is the reader's responsibility to determine suitability for the reader's purpose of any methods mentioned herein and to adopt such precautions as may be advisable for the protection of property and of persons against any hazards that may be involved in the implementation thereof. I recommend that the reader follow the instructions of the official Workshop Instruction Sheets and use my suggestions merely as a guide.

My modus operandi is to do some reading before I start a new project. I then attempt to integrate all the wisdom gained from different sources into a single document which I use as a reference when doing the work.

I was apprehensive in deciding to submit my endeavour as a new thread, both because of my lack of experience and because I am not a native speaker of the English language. I would, therefore, welcome any suggestions or corrections, and hope that the result would eventually be of service to fellow members.

I acknowledge the valuable contributions of the Workshop Instructions Sheets, Pelican Parts Technical articles and forum members such as Check Codes, Ricebubbles and Quadcammer.

Parts and fluids



Shown in the picture above are the following parts for my S500 (2001):

• Flex disc kit (230 410 01 15) with all new mounting hardware (T60 bolts, 18mm nuts and washers). A close investigation revealed that the OEM flex discs are manufactured by Lemförder. There are two flex discs for the car, front and rear. One of the T60 bolts that were supplied in both Lemförder kits (17979 01) which I bought, is slightly shorter than the other five. I am not sure why and I do hope that it would not affect the balance of the shaft. Note for installation: the side with the writing on both discs faced the rear of my vehicle.

• Intermediate bearing (008 981 43 25 or *** 6006RSR)

• Driveshaft Center Support or Carrier for the bearing (211-410-01-81)

• Rubber dust boot (202 411 04 97)

• Centering bushing or sleeve (124-410-07-32)

The WIS recommends the following fluids:

• The splined profile at the sliding connection between the front propeller shaft and the rear propeller shaft should be coated with long-life grease (NLGI grade 2). MB 266.2 grease (A 000 989 63 51) contains Castrol Olistamoly 2 as shown in the picture below.



• The cavities in the two centering sleeves should be packed with 6 grams Multipurpose Grease. Mercedes-Benz Sheet 267.0 recommends NLGI Class 2 Multipurpose Grease. The list includes inter alia Castrol LM Mehrzweckfett 2, Fuchs Renolit 283 EP 2, Mobilgrease MB 2, Shell Gadus S2 V145KP and Total MULTIS 2. Shown in the picture below is Castrol LM Grease.



Part 1 Remove the rear part of the exhaust system

1. Put the car up on either jackstands, a lift, or front on ramps, back on stands. You need the rear wheels free to turn.

2. Remove exhaust system as of flange connection (11/3, 11/4 and 11/5).



2.1 You’ll have to remove the rear part of the exhaust to remove the heat shield that covers the propeller shaft. Begin by loosening and removing the four bolts that hold the front part of the exhaust to the rear. Keep in mind that the nuts are 12mm (11/3) while the bolts are 13mm (11/5). If they are heavily rusted, you may want to soak them with good penetrant oil prior to removing. Sometimes you may even need to cut the bolts off if they are too rusted.

2.2 Unscrew the two bolts (11/9) at the rear exhaust rubber mount (9/2). Support the rear exhaust assembly with jack stands if you don’t have a helper.

2.3 Have a helper support the rear exhaust assembly where it meets the catalytic converters or support it also with a jack stand. Now unscrew bolts (11/6) with nuts (11/7) from exhaust-rubber mount (9/1).

2.4 Once these bolts are removed, the the rear part of the exhaust system can be lowered out from under the car. Don’t forget to grab the exhaust sealing ring that goes in between the front and rear pipes on the left side pipe.

2.5 One caveat: depending on how high you have the car you may have to support the ends of the front part of the exhaust system. Don't let them hang on the bolts that tie the pipes to the manifold.

Part 2 Removal of rear reinforcement bridge, front exhaust shielding plate, exhaust shielding plate above center muffler and front crossbrace



3. Remove rear reinforcement bridge (crossbar 35). By the rear end, there is a crossbar with four 13 mm bolts. Remove the bolts and the crossbar.

4. Detach front exhaust shielding plate (105k) from exhaust shielding plate above center muffler (105e). There are two 7 mm nuts (one per side). Remove them. There are three 8 mm screws… remove them. Then slide panel out (may need to wiggle).

5. Detach exhaust shielding plate above center muffler (105e) in tunnel area. Remove 2 more 7 mm nuts.

6. Detach front crossbrace (34). Locate the two 13 mm bolts right by the transfer case. Remove the bolts and bar. This gives you a bit more room to move the propeller shaft enough to remove the disc.
 
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Part 3 Loosen bolts of propeller shaft intermediate bearing assembly

7. Loosen bolts of propeller shaft intermediate bearing (7). Once the heat shield is removed, you’ll see the propeller shaft center bearing directly above. The propeller shaft is designed with a splined yoke that allows front and back movement between the two sections of the propeller shaft. The center bearing secures the propeller shaft in place, preventing the propeller shaft from moving. You’ll need to remove the two 13 mm bolts that hold the bearing assembly in place to push the rear propeller shaft forward. At this point, you can move the drive shaft around enough to get the flex disks out and in. Still takes some wiggling, but at this point its doable. Shown in the picture below is the propeller shaft intermediate bearing assembly with the two bolts. Note the white paint marks which I made on the front and the rear shafts to ease assembling after removal (the humps on the shafts are not clearly visible in poor lighting conditions which is usually the case in a DIY workshop). I painted the marks in line with the humps. The splines should be reassembled in their original grooves so the driveshaft won’t be out of balance.



Part 4 Remove rear engine crossmember with rear engine mount (transmission mount)

8. Remove rear engine crossmember with rear engine mount. The front flex disc is a bit more complicated to remove and requires the removal of the transmission mount (also referred to as the rear engine mount) as shown in the picture below.



8.1 Use a floor jack to lift and support the transmission. Do not place the jack on the transmission pan. It will bend and possibly damage the transmission if you do so. Place it under the bell housing which is strong enough according to some sources. An alternative method is to place a jack under the center of the transmission pan with a solid block of at least 12"x12" to spread the weight. Jack up the transmission until you take the weight off the mount. Shown in the picture below is my trolley jack with the blocks of wood which I placed 1mm below a rod on the jack’s lifting arm to safeguard it against hydraulic failure which, in fact, did occur after 10 days (I can only work during free time). The jack lowered as a result and came to rest on the wooden blocks. Note the solid block of wood that covers the whole surface of the transmission pan to spread the weight as even as possible.



Caveat: always torque the transmission pan bolts to 8 Nm after using a jack to support the transmission. I discovered a leak at one bolt. It turned out that I had to torque all six bolts.

8.2 At the rear end of the transmission, you'll see the mount bracket that holds the transmission mount which bolts to the transmission.



8.2.1 Unbolt the two center 13 mm bolts holding the mount to the bracket.

8.2.2 Next unbolt the six 16 mm bolts that hold the bracket to the underside of the car.

8.2.3 Now remove the two 16 mm bolts that hold the mount to the end of the transmission and remove the mount.

8.2.4 Once the transmission mount is removed, you’ll see the front flex disc directly above.​

Part 5 Detach front propeller shaft and flex disc

9. Detach front propeller shaft (1) from transmission. The flex disk remains on the front propeller shaft (1) according to the WIS. Take pictures of the orientation of the discs and paint markings on the flange of both the front/rear propeller shaft and the flange of the differential/transmission before you remove them to ensure that they remain in phase when installed. The side with the writing on my discs pointed to the rear. The picture below shows my paint marks on the front propeller shaft flange and transmission flange.



9.1 Make sure that the car is in park and the parking brake is secured. You’ll need to lock the propeller shaft to keep it from moving as you loosen and remove each 19mm nut and bolt (new version T60 bolt and 18mm nut) securing the flex disc. You’ll find that the nuts that hold the flex disc to the transmission flange are a tight fit, but you can just fit the end of a ratcheting wrench on there. This makes the work just a bit faster.

9.2 Loosen the three bolts you can access from below. Note where washers are: on the flex disc side (not on the flange side).

9.3 Once removed, put the car in neutral, release the parking brake and rotate the propeller shaft until you can access and remove the remaining fasteners. Then put the car back in park and re-engage the parking brake.

9.4 The differential has a centering rod that fits into a centering bushing or sleeve (40) in the end of the propeller shaft. In order to remove the flex disc, we will need to move the propeller shaft backward. If they won’t slip out, which is likely, you will have to remove the carrier bearing bracket . You may have to pry the flex disk off the shaft and the transfer case/differential.

Part 6 Detach rear propeller shaft and flex disc

10. Detach rear propeller shaft (2) from rear axle center assembly. The flex disk remains on the rear propeller shaft (2) according to the WIS. In order to remove the flex disc, we will need to move the propeller shaft forward. Pull the rear section of the propeller shaft forward. As you do, you’ll see that the differential has a centering rod that fits into a centering bushing or sleeve (15) in the end of the propeller shaft. Keep pushing until you separate the rod from the bushing and the drive shaft will fall down and away from the differential. At this point, you can remove the flex disc. You may find that the flex disc needs to be pried off the propeller shaft flange depending on how rusted it may be. It may take some time to find the optimum angle in which to move the shaft in order to remove the flex disc.



11. Loosen the fit sleeves of the flexible couplings using the drift (shop-made tool) on the three or four arm flange of the transmission or rear axle center assembly if the fitted sleeves are jammed.



Part 7 Remove propeller shaft

12. Unscrew bolts of propeller shaft intermediate bearing (90). Installation: Only tighten bolts by hand.

13. Pull propeller shaft from centering pins (15 &40) on transmission and rear axle, then extract to the rear. Installation: Pack the cavities in the two centering sleeves with multipurpose grease in the case of rubber bushes or compound bearing bushes.

Part 8 Lubricate splined connection

14. Separate front propeller shaft (10) and rear propeller shaft (35) if necessary at the sliding connection.

14.1 Installation: Assemble the propeller shaft. Coat the splined profile with long-life grease (NLGI grade 2). MB 266.2 grease A 000 989 63 51 contains Castrol Olistamoly 2.

14.2 Connect sections of propeller shaft. The humps on the front propeller shaft must be between the two humps on the linkage arm (arrows).



14.3 Ensure correct seat of rubber sleeve at large diameter.

Part 9 Replacing the intermediate bearing, carrier and dust boot

15. Check propeller shaft intermediate bearing (50), carrier (45) and rubber dust boot (70) for wear. It's likely that they are not going to last through two sets of flex discs, so you're going to have to redo this labour at a later date anyway. Hence the suggestion by ‘Check Codes’ to replace them. Make sure you have a bearing puller for the center bearing. Removing the bearing is much easier with a puller and avoids prying on/damaging the U-joint.

 
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Part 10 Replacing the centering sleeves

16. Check centering sleeves (15 &40) for wear. Replace if the grease has leaked out or if the rubber sealing lips are worn, damaged or hardened.

16.1 Removal (See AR41.10-P-0200-02DA):

16.1.1 Before removing the centering sleeve, measure and note the press-in dimension ”a” (from the surface of the bolt hole to the face end of the centering sleeve – see picture below at installing notes).

16.1.2 The WIS recommends knocking centering sleeve evenly out of the propeller shaft using a flat chisel. If is is not possible to hammer out the centering sleeve using a chisel (which I didn’t want to do), the WIS recommendes drilling a hole (dia. 10 mm) 15mm from the end face of the centering sleeve at right-angles through the centering sleeve. Insert a drift through the bore and lever the centering sleeve (10) out of the propeller shaft using two assembly levers.​



16.1.3 I did not want to risk damaging the surface of the flanges by using levers. Therfore, I mounted a flat flange on the flange of the propeller shaft with HT bolts, and used two strong clamps to extract the centering sleeves. Although it worked fine, it required some improvisation with the tools that were available to me as the picture illustrates.​



16.2 Installation (See AR41.10-P-0200-03I Press In Guide Sleeve):

16.2.1 Pack the cavities in the two centering sleeves with 6 grams Multipurpose Grease. Mercedes-Benz Sheet 267.0 recommends NLGI Class 2 Multipurpose Grease. The list includes inter alia Castrol LM Mehrzweckfett 2, Fuchs Renolit 283 EP 2, Mobilgrease MB 2, Shell Gadus S2 V145KP and Total MULTIS 2.​



16.2.2 The Mercedes-Benz Workshop Manual states the following test values for dimension “a” when pressing in the replacement centering sleeves using a suitable mandrel:​



Picture: AR41.10-P-0200-031 (Note that the measurement is from the surface of the bolt hole to the face end of the centering sleeve).

BE41.10-P-1000-02G Modification Note 4.4.02: Value changed from 28.3mm to 24.8mm in series 1001 for model 220.075/084/170/175/184

BE41.10-P-1001-02G for model 220.073/075/084/170/173/175/183/184/875
Insertion dimension "a" from face end of centering sleeve to joint flange
Front propeller shaft................24.8 mm
Rear propeller shaft.................28.3 mm

BE41.10-P-1001-02G for model 220.125/128
Insertion dimension "a" from face end of centering sleeve to joint flange
Front propeller shaft................25.9mm
Rear propeller shaft. ...............33.8 mm

BE41.10-P-1001-02G for model 220.175 with codes Z04,Z07
Insertion dimension "a" from face end of centering sleeve to joint flange
Front propeller shaft........ ........25.9mm
Rear propeller shaft..................25.9 mm

BE41.10-P-1001-02G for model 220.074/174/176/179/876
Insertion dimension "a" from face end of centering sleeve to joint flange
Front propeller shaft.................28.8mm
Rear propeller shaft.................28.8 mm

The pictures below show the measurement of 24.8 mm on the front centering sleeve and the measurement of 28.3 mm on the rear centering sleeve of my model 220.075.





16.3 I cleaned the surface of the flanges with a wire brush and coated them with a suitable primer and topcoat to prevent corrosion. The propeller shaft is now ready for installation.

 
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Part 11 Installing the flex disks and the propeller shaft

17. Reinstall flex disks and propeller shaft.

17.1 Take the new flex disc and mount it with three of the small protruding metal sleeves facing into the flange on the differential and the transmission. When mounted correctly, it will also leave small sleeves facing the propeller shaft. As you tighten the bolts, it will push the sleeves inside both flanges. The new disc will include all new mounting bolts. If smaller internal T60 head bolts are supplied, use them to secure the flex disc to the transmission or differential. The new nuts are 18mm. Clean the insides of the flanges with a wire brush in order that the sleeves may fit properly.



17.2 Lightly tighten the bolts.

17.3 Install the propeller shaft. I placed jack stands close to the differential and the transmission as temporary stands to ease the installation process. The front section of the exhaust was covered with an old shirt to prevent scratching the front section of the propeller shaft while moving it towards the transmission flange. I then positioned the front and rear ends of the shaft on the jack stands while holding it together at the intermediate bearing. While supporting the bearing carrier with one hand, I was able to tighten the bearing bracket bolts lightly to allow movement. This freed my hands to guide the centering sleeves onto the centering rods of the differential and the transmission. I had a clear vision of the rods and could make sure that the sealing lips of the centering sleeves were not damaged. The lightly tightening of the propeller shaft flanges to the flex discs followed. I was pleasantly surprised by the smoothness of the whole operation (I thought it would be tough to do it alone).

18. Check that the carrier bearing bracket bolts are lightly tightened and that the bracket is snug against the body.

19. Torque the flex disk bolts to 45 ft lbs (WIS 60 Nm). The picture below shows the new front flex disc.



20. Once the flex disks are tight, loosen the carrier bearing bolts, let the bracket naturally readjust, and final tighten to 30 Nm.

Part 12 Reattaching the rear engine mount (transmission mount)

21. Reattach the transmission mount.

21.1 Check the transmission mount for wear. Replace if necessary.

21.2 Transmission mount arms are angled, make sure you install it with the correct orientation. One of the bolts has a ground lead with washer, make sure you include that when installing the new transmission mount and keep the bolts somewhat loose at this point.

21.3 Place the black mount bracket over the 6 bolt holes and with all the holes centered, put in 2 bots at each corner without tightening them. Center the 2 small bolt holes with the holes at the bottom of the new transmission mount and install the 2 small bolts and tighten them. Torque the bolts to 40 Nm.

21.4 While centering the holes at the mount bracket tighten the 2 large bolts at the corners and install and tighten the remaining 4 large bolts, securing the black steel plate in place. Torque the bolts to 40 Nm.

21.5 Then go back up to the 2 bolts at the transmission mount arms and tighten them to 40 Nm.

Part 13 Reinstalling cross bars, heat shields and exhaust

22. Reinstall the front crossbrace (34). Torque the two bolts to 23 Nm.

23. Reinstall the heat shields. Don’t overtighten the 7mm nuts and 8mm screws.

24. Reinstall the exhaust.

24.1 Use jack stands to support the rear ends if you have to do it without a helper.

24.2 Torque the flange connection bolts to 20 Nm.

Part 14 Correcting deviations in the propeller shaft-articulation angle

25. Reinstall the rear reinforcement bridge (crossbar 35). Torque the four 13 mm bolts to 23 Nm.

26. The WIS mentions that, if there are complaints of drive line vibrations or roughness when accelerating, the cause may be a deviation in the propeller shaft-articulation angle from the specified value. AR41.10-P-0086IW (attached) gives instructions on how to measure the propeller shaft alignment with an electronic propeller shaft inclinometer and how to correct the angle. I guess this would be necessary when one replaces the differential.

I hope that my suggestions may be of value.

Daniel
 

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#7 · (Edited)
dtnel,

Very nice writeup indeed!! Looks like you have diligently covered all the bases. When I replaced my center support bearing, I simply replaced the Carrier and bearing assembly with a new one. I couldn't have reused the Carrier anyway as the rubber was "heat welded" to the bearing.

The shop that did my drive shaft balancing replaced the centering sleeves with new ones because the old ones were too sloppy for an accurate balancing job. The tech that did the balancing said that he just yanked them out with vise grips.

2. Remove exhaust system as of flange connection (11/3, 11/4 and 11/5).
The WIS instructions that I followed instructed to drop the whole exhaust system instead of splitting it at the flanges after the rear Cats. See attachments

Again, Very Nice Job,

Thanks, Bob
 

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#9 ·
Bob.

Thank you very much for your kind remarks and the attachments. You confirm that it could be necessary to replace the centering sleeves as well. Although my carrier looked fine, I decided to replace it too because I don't want to repeat "mission creep" in the next ten years.

It makes sense to drop the whole exhaust system as you did because it gives one more room to move the propeller shaft in or out. I had to do some work on the rear part of the exhaust as well, therefore, I decided to remove only the rear section. I had to be very careful not to scratch the propeller shaft when removing and installing it.

Daniel
 
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I took my car for a test drive yesterday after completing some other work (replacement of fuel filter and differential oil) while it was on the ramps. I was amazed by the smoothness of the drive. The slight knocking sound which I previously heard when accelerating with full power disappeared. I thought it came from the bearing of the water pump which has slight play. Therefore, I would like to add it as one of the symptoms when considering to refurbish the propeller shaft.

Daniel
 
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Sorry to dig this up, but wanted to check and see how many miles/kms you had on the car when you had this done

I just hit 100k miles and will need to replace the flex discs (they're cracking). In my case, it might not be mileage as much as living in the desert (Arizona, USA). Really glad for the write up, will try to have all this done in one go! :)
 
#13 ·
Just completed this maintenance job on my 2003 S600 w/97K miles. Write up was a great help - in addition to WIS instructions.

Notes:
1. was able to remove centering bushings with a cold chisel - no problems
2. flex disks only had minor cracks when under stress from pry bar (no major visual indications of issues)
3. center bearing and rubber bushing in good shape - replaced as precaution.
4. completed job in 5.5 hours by myself - except needed help to put exhaust back into place.

Results:
Slight "thump" that could be heard/felt when shifting from reverse to drive is 100% gone. Drive line feels smoother -- drove car 750 miles yesterday and felt better than what I thought was already a smooth drive. The replacement did make a difference and I am glad I completed the job.

Forum has been a great help overall - I put 10K miles on S600 in last year with no major issues and it is a great car for long distance trips.
 
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Sorry to dig this up, but wanted to check and see how many miles/kms you had on the car when you had this done

I just hit 100k miles and will need to replace the flex discs (they're cracking). In my case, it might not be mileage as much as living in the desert (Arizona, USA). Really glad for the write up, will try to have all this done in one go!
Gentlemen, my apology for responding after so many weeks. We are in a process of restoring our house which has already taken too much of my time.

My car had done 150000 Km. It seems that the aging of the rubber had been the most contributing factor.

Thank you very much for sharing your notes and success, Chuck. Your experience confirms that this could be considered as a Saturday project.

Daniel
 
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Alignment

Hi all,
Great thread and so very helpful. I should have red this thread before starting doing any job. I had to drop the propeller shaft to change centering bushings, center bearing and 2x flex disks. I made that BIG mistake to not mark all it's needed to be marked before removal. I know...too late. With this thread's help I see how Front and rear shaft alignment can be done (the humps, OEM alignment marks), and how Flex disks should be mounted.
But I wonder if the Transmission and the Differential flanges (flanges mounted/connected to transmission and differential) has to be placed in special position/direction so that everything is aligned correctly after propeller shaft is re-installed. The other problem I have is if only the rear shaft is changed (leaving the OEM front one in place), even if the humps are aligned, do we need to re-balance the propeller shaft?
Really need help Please?
Thank You
 
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W220 Flex Discs, intermediate bearing and centering sleeves replacement DIY

The W220 forum threads which deal with the propeller shaft maintenance usually focus on the replacement of the rubber flex discs, assuming that the other parts would be fine. Some members mentioned that the intermediate bearing and the centering sleeves are not subjected to the same torque that the discs have to absorb and would, therefore, seldom need replacement. My experience has not been the same, maybe because the front flex disc, the rear engine mount (transmission mount) and the engine mounts had been in a bad shape when I bought my vehicle. This could have caused more stress on the intermediate bearing and the centering sleeves. However, sooner or later all owners would have to deal with the rubber parts that do deteriorate when they age and seals that would start to leak when they become harder and change in shape. I agree with “Check Codes” (BW Elite member) who recommends the following regarding replacement of the intermediate bearing, the carrier and the rubber dust boot:

“It's likely that they are not going to last through two sets of flex discs, so you're going to have to redo this labour at a later date anyway. Hence my suggestion to replace them. Thus, if you are planning this task as preventative maintenance, then buy both flex discs, the center bearing, carrier and dust boot, and do it all at once. In my humble opinion, that's the best practice here”.
The W220 Mercedes-Benz has a two-piece propeller shaft that couples to the transmission and rear axle with rubber flex discs. The main function of these discs is to absorb driveline shock which is caused by the tremendous torque that the engine generates. The front piece (10) and the rear piece (35) can telescope or be seperated at a sliding connection. This is held in place by an intermediate bearing (50) in a rubber bushing which is supported by a metal carrier (45). Both the differential and the transmission have centering rods which fit into centering bushings or sleeves (15 & 40) at the ends of the propeller shaft. It seems that the centering sleeve consists of a small bronze bush mounted in rubber within an outer sleeve.













The propeller shaft is subjected to the following wear:

• The rubber flex discs do eventually crack. That is the most-likely source of driveline vibration and noise. It could cause severe damage when they fail.

• The grease of the sealed intermediate bearing eventually breaks down, causing the bearing to squeal and seize if ignored. Excessive play could cause vibrations. Some members reported that the driveline vibration which they noticed went away after the intermediate bearing and carrier of their vehicles had been replaced. The intermediate bearing should spin freely. If it binds, squeaks, or grinds, its grease is probably dead -- the bearing should be replaced.

• The bearing is suspended in a rubber bushing, which also has a limited service life — the rubber dries out, cracks, and no longer adequately supports the intermediate bearing.

• The rubber boot which seals the splined connection between the two parts could deteriorate causing the grease to leak.

• The centering sleeves could wear at their sealing lips. The rubber becomes harder and shrinks away from the centering rods towards the wall to which it is attached. The internal diameter of the seal thus increases and causes a leak at the rod. A W124 WIS mentions that this could also be a source of vibration: “During test drive of vehicles with manual transmission, check whether vibrations are showing up when decelerating from a high speed. These vibrations cannot be eliminated by balancing nuts. In such cases, check whether the centering sleeve is filled with an adequate quantity of grease and whether the propeller shaft is guided free of play in centering sleeve, and renew parts, if required. Prior to assembly fill centering sleeves with approx. 6 g of multi-purpose grease according to page 267 of Specifications for Service Products.”

• The U-joint is also sealed. It will eventually dry out and need to be replaced.

Vibrations that transmit into the interior, especially at the rear console section, could be very annoying.

Examining the wear on the propeller shaft of my S500

I was not aware of any driveshaft vibrations on my vehicle. After my dealer had pointed out that the rubber flex discs needed replacement, I decided to examine all the parts of the propeller shaft.

• The front rubber flex disc of my S500 had severe cracks. I was alarmed by the fact that a small portion on the front side had already broken off. This could not have been seen because the front view of the disc is obscured by the transmission parts. I was also surprised that it had not transmitted into vibrations yet. I guess that could have been the next stage before it fails.













• When I inspected the intermediate bearing from below, I saw signs of dry grease deposits on the outside of the bearing as well as an indication of play (I do realise that the bearing would have play because it is fitted into a rubber bushing. I noticed play in the bearing itself). The turning and listening test after removal revealed a soft grinding noise. That confirmed that the grease of the bearing had indeed broken down, although it had not started to squeal yet.

• The rubber bushing of the carrier seemed to be fine.

• Deposits around the rubber boot at the spline connection indicated that it might need replacement. It shows as the darker colouring on the right side of the hump on the front propeller shaft in the picture below.













• Although the centering sleeves appeared to be fine, I discovered that all the grease had leaked out. The picture shows no grease on the inside of the bushing (the WIS recommends 6 grams). A measurement of the internal diameter of the rubber sealing slip confirmed an increase of 1mm in comparison to the rubber sealing slip of the new centering sleeve. This is confirmed by the picture: one can see the inner wall of the bushing of the old centering sleeve when pictured at a right angle, while it is not as clearly visible in the picture of the replacement sleeve. I came to the conclusion that the leak was caused by the increase in the internal diameter of the aging sealing slip. The rubber also felt a little bit harder than the rubber of the replacement sleeves.

























• The U-joint seemed to be fine.

Aim, disclaimer and acknowledgements

This humble contribution was written by a novice and is aimed at the novice DIY ’r who prefers to use a single document as a guide when doing his or her chores. I am not a technician. In fact, this is an account of my first attempt to refurbish a propeller shaft. It does not intend to replace the official Workshop Instruction Sheets.

The data contained herein are furnished for information only and are believed to be reliable. However, I cannot assume responsibility for the results obtained by others over whose methods I have no control. It is the reader's responsibility to determine suitability for the reader's purpose of any methods mentioned herein and to adopt such precautions as may be advisable for the protection of property and of persons against any hazards that may be involved in the implementation thereof. I recommend that the reader follow the instructions of the official Workshop Instruction Sheets and use my suggestions merely as a guide.

My modus operandi is to do some reading before I start a new project. I then attempt to integrate all the wisdom gained from different sources into a single document which I use as a reference when doing the work.

I was apprehensive in deciding to submit my endeavour as a new thread, both because of my lack of experience and because I am not a native speaker of the English language. I would, therefore, welcome any suggestions or corrections, and hope that the result would eventually be of service to fellow members.

I acknowledge the valuable contributions of the Workshop Instructions Sheets, Pelican Parts Technical articles and forum members such as Check Codes, Ricebubbles and Quadcammer.

Parts and fluids













Shown in the picture above are the following parts for my S500 (2001):

• Flex disc kit (230 410 01 15) with all new mounting hardware (T60 bolts, 18mm nuts and washers). A close investigation revealed that the OEM flex discs are manufactured by Lemförder. There are two flex discs for the car, front and rear. One of the T60 bolts that were supplied in both Lemförder kits (17979 01) which I bought, is slightly shorter than the other five. I am not sure why and I do hope that it would not affect the balance of the shaft. Note for installation: the side with the writing on both discs faced the rear of my vehicle.

• Intermediate bearing (008 981 43 25 or *** 6006RSR)

• Driveshaft Center Support or Carrier for the bearing (211-410-01-81)

• Rubber dust boot (202 411 04 97)

• Centering bushing or sleeve (124-410-07-32)

The WIS recommends the following fluids:

• The splined profile at the sliding connection between the front propeller shaft and the rear propeller shaft should be coated with long-life grease (NLGI grade 2). MB 266.2 grease (A 000 989 63 51) contains Castrol Olistamoly 2 as shown in the picture below.













• The cavities in the two centering sleeves should be packed with 6 grams Multipurpose Grease. Mercedes-Benz Sheet 267.0 recommends NLGI Class 2 Multipurpose Grease. The list includes inter alia Castrol LM Mehrzweckfett 2, Fuchs Renolit 283 EP 2, Mobilgrease MB 2, Shell Gadus S2 V145KP and Total MULTIS 2. Shown in the picture below is Castrol LM Grease.













Part 1 Remove the rear part of the exhaust system

1. Put the car up on either jackstands, a lift, or front on ramps, back on stands. You need the rear wheels free to turn.

2. Remove exhaust system as of flange connection (11/3, 11/4 and 11/5).













2.1 You’ll have to remove the rear part of the exhaust to remove the heat shield that covers the propeller shaft. Begin by loosening and removing the four bolts that hold the front part of the exhaust to the rear. Keep in mind that the nuts are 12mm (11/3) while the bolts are 13mm (11/5). If they are heavily rusted, you may want to soak them with good penetrant oil prior to removing. Sometimes you may even need to cut the bolts off if they are too rusted.

2.2 Unscrew the two bolts (11/9) at the rear exhaust rubber mount (9/2). Support the rear exhaust assembly with jack stands if you don’t have a helper.

2.3 Have a helper support the rear exhaust assembly where it meets the catalytic converters or support it also with a jack stand. Now unscrew bolts (11/6) with nuts (11/7) from exhaust-rubber mount (9/1).

2.4 Once these bolts are removed, the the rear part of the exhaust system can be lowered out from under the car. Don’t forget to grab the exhaust sealing ring that goes in between the front and rear pipes on the left side pipe.

2.5 One caveat: depending on how high you have the car you may have to support the ends of the front part of the exhaust system. Don't let them hang on the bolts that tie the pipes to the manifold.

Part 2 Removal of rear reinforcement bridge, front exhaust shielding plate, exhaust shielding plate above center muffler and front crossbrace













3. Remove rear reinforcement bridge (crossbar 35). By the rear end, there is a crossbar with four 13 mm bolts. Remove the bolts and the crossbar.

4. Detach front exhaust shielding plate (105k) from exhaust shielding plate above center muffler (105e). There are two 7 mm nuts (one per side). Remove them. There are three 8 mm screws… remove them. Then slide panel out (may need to wiggle).

5. Detach exhaust shielding plate above center muffler (105e) in tunnel area. Remove 2 more 7 mm nuts.

6. Detach front crossbrace (34). Locate the two 13 mm bolts right by the transfer case. Remove the bolts and bar. This gives you a bit more room to move the propeller shaft enough to remove the disc.
I know its been 10 years since you posted this but i wanted to tell you how helpful your post was and your suggestions were . I replaced my carrier bearing on my 2006 s430 ,and flex disc’s reading all your post made it much easier thank you the car runs great no more vibrations.