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07 E350 4Matic REAR DIFFERENTIAL HEADACHE!!!

Hello Mercedes fans! I am new to this site but I have recently had bad news for my E class and could use any possible suggestions. As stated in the topic I have a 2007 Mercedes E350 4Matic sedan with 75,000 miles on it. It has been babied all of it's life but recently i have been hearing loud humming noises from the rear which i thought was from the new tires the car has had recently put on it. As the noises got worse my concerns grew. Today i took it to the dealership in Paramus NJ and they threw it up on the lift and determined there was a bad bearing in the rear diff. I didn't know that Mercedes had a worse warranty than Hyundai, being that Mercedes has a 5 year 100,000 mile warranty and Hyundai has a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty. They told me the repairs would cost a projected $5,900.I am extremely disappointed as my warranty has expired about 9 months ago. I thought Mercedes was a high end car so could someone please tell me why the differential would go so early as i said this car has been babied and driven by my 54 year old mother all it's life! Is there anything i can do to get Mercedes to cover the repair?! Any advice or other similar stories would be greatly appreciated!
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Bad bearings in diffs do happen but not often.
Were the fluids ever changed in the rear diff?
It will cost you about $3700 from parts.com for a new one, the dealer probably quoted you a rebuilt diff.
I don't know how many hours are allocated to a rear diff swap, my guess is 5 to 8 .
If you do confirm that the rear diff is bad, I suggest you find a good indy, buy the part from parts.com and save yourself about $1000.

The following (in purple) is for a 07 w211 4M

[ 1 ] UNIVERSALS & REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / DRIVE AXLES / AXLE ASSY
axle assy E350; w/4-Matic

MSRP Core ? Save Online Price
$935.00 $0.00 $263.00 $672.00


[ 2 ] UNIVERSALS & REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / DIFFERENTIAL / PINION SEAL
pinion seal E350; w/4-Matic

MSRP Core ? Save Online Price
$22.50 $0.00 $6.30 $16.20


[ 3 ] UNIVERSALS & REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / DIFFERENTIAL / COMPANION FLANGE
companion flange E350; w/4-Matic

MSRP Core ? Save Online Price
$144.00 $0.00 $40.80 $103.20


[ 4 ] UNIVERSALS & REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / DIFFERENTIAL / NUT
nut E-Class

MSRP Core ? Save Online Price
$20.00 $0.00 $5.60 $14.40


[ 5 ] UNIVERSALS & REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / CARRIER
carrier E350; w/4-Matic

MSRP Core ? Save Online Price
$3,720.00 $0.00 $156.00 $3,564.00


[ 6 ] UNIVERSALS & REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / AXLE COVER
axle cover E350; w/4-Matic

MSRP Core ? Save Online Price
$244.00 $0.00 $68.80 $175.20


[ 7 ] UNIVERSALS & REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / REAR AXLE / AXLE SEALS
axle seals E350; w/4-Matic

MSRP Core ? Save Online Price
$9.25 $0.00 $2.65 $6.60
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Reman from MB is part # 211350981488. List is $2125 (Internet pricing is odd with a core of $570, but parts.com is selling it for $2040.)
I need to check a dealer that wholesales and if the core charge knocks the price down to the mid $1500 price range. That would make the shipping worth dealing with parts.com.
If not then if your dealer has no other damage and the drive axles are intact then I just do not see how there can be almost $4000 in labor if they use a reman diff.

Please get a breakdown of parts and labor so we can help you get the best price.
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Just a note the part listed by Roadking for $3720 is the same part 2113509814, just an OEM MB factory rebuild with the same warranty as the one that is $3720.
by add 88 to the end of the number designates it as a rebuild part that MB is selling.
So I really hope the dealer would go that route as it is saving $1600.

I did a rough calculation of parts and labor and if just the bearing is the only damage then the price is high. So they may be trying to sell you a new one. The most book time for labor I could find was 15.2 hours.
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i had my rear diff replaced a month ago at the dealer on my 06 E500 4matic. parts from the invoice :luckly covere under CPO warranty.

211-350-23-62-88 axle housing
170-990-00-10 bolt and washer
120-142-00-72 hexagon nut
126-997-00-41 ring general
211-350-23-62-88 core return
001-989-33-03-12 transmission
labor hrs 10 hrs

doesnt say price on the invoice just WARRANTY. But guessing $3400-3500?? I've been trying to get as much fixed before my warranty runs out in May 2013

06 E500 4Matic Sprt/Avant Package Pano roof 11/15/08

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My local indie replaced my failing pinion bearing for less than $1000 last year. Find a shop that has the jigs to rebuild your diff and save a lot of coin...

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I thought Mercedes was a high end car
Its just a car. Everything breaks.

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I recently had this same problem on my 2007 Mercedes E350 4matic. The rear differential was making a terrible rubbing noise, very similar to what a really bad wheel bearing sounds like. It turned out to be the outer pinion bearing. Like everywhere I have read, it would cost roughly $6000.00 to get a new one installed from Mercedes along with returning the old core.

I just got it fixed by having all the bearings replaced with 4 new bearings; 2 new pinion bearings/ races and 2 new carrier bearings/races along with having new seals installed. I saved thousands plus now I know I have brand new bearings and races, news seals and fresh fluid. Below are some pictures

These bearings were real hard to come by, a lot of work to locate and had to be shipped from Europe.

This forum has been very informative and I feel I have to give back so if anyone has this problem and is in the New York area, I am in Westchester County NY, contact me and I can connect you with a great shop that did the work very reasonably compared to replacing the whole differential.

my email is inertiapro@aol.com
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If anyone is in the Westchester County, NY area and needs a 2007-2009 Mercedes E350 4matic rear differential rebuilt I can have the whole job done for $1550.00.

That includes removing the rear differential, rebuilding it with all 4 new bearings, seals and oil and installing it back in. That price includes all four new bearings and races (outer pinion, inner pinion, left and right carrier bearings), plus the brand new differential seals from Mercedes and Mobil 1 differential oil. The price also includes taxes. If you want to purchase the bearings you can click the links below. Or if interested in the whole job email me at: inertiapro@aol.com


http://www.ebay.com/itm/331809856875...84.m1555.l2649

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/331800639155...84.m1555.l2649

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Thanks for the info
I'm sure many members will be savings thousands
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