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Air Filter question

What is the difference between;

Replace engine air>cleaner insert Engines 272, 273 AP09.10>P>0980TS
which is listed as service 2 every 52000 miles or 4 years

and

Replace combination filter AP83.00>P>8384T
which is service 3 every 26000 miles or 2 years?

This from the MB Service Sheet for 2008 W211
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52000 on the main air filters (for engine air)
26000 on the combination filter (for cabin air)

Just changed mine yesterday (104K). Cabin filter still looked new. The main air filters hand a handful of debris in them. Last changed around 52k. I'll check the mains next time the combo filter is due for service. 52k is to long without checking them.

I used Mann filters I ordered from Amazon. About $50 for all 3 filters.

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the 272 and 273 filter is the engine air filter. the service of 52k mi is wayyy to long. they should be changed every 20k. the other filter is your cabin air filter for your climate control. it should be changed every year.. thats the bottom line...
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Thanks for the info, just wished they called it a cabin filter like everyone else. And I will be checking these with every oil change

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the 272 and 273 filter is the engine air filter. the service of 52k mi is wayyy to long. they should be changed every 20k. the other filter is your cabin air filter for your climate control. it should be changed every year.. thats the bottom line...
52,000 miles for an air filter is the correct interval. You are actually doing your engine harm by replacing them at 20,000. A filter is more efficient when half full of contaminants than when new.
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peavysonic claims he is a dealer tech. No reason to accuse him of not being truthful, but some of the
posts he made about things that have already been well established about the W211 care and upkeep
were horrible. The 52k mile interval is perfectly safe and is best for the engine.
Each cylinder bank gets its own filter fed by independent intakes. The filtration surface area far exceeds
the engines need for air at full throttle on the 6 and 8 cylinder engines.
Posts like that are bad advice, just like the posts where members say they just do an oil change every
3000-5000 miles. That causes more wear than the 10000 mile interval due to the large oil capacity
and the detergents just keep washing away the protection in the oil until at least 3000 miles is used
with a MB spec oil like the Mobile 1 and other MB spec oils.
Over maintaining can be more harmful than sticking to the vehicle's factory service intervals.
The only area that has changed is the transmission and the differential. If it is 4matic also the front
diff and transfer case. In those drive line components the 2-3 year/40k mile changes will protect and
and add longevity to the components as long as the proper fluids are used.
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peavysonic claims he is a dealer tech. No reason to accuse him of not being truthful, but some of the
posts he made about things that have already been well established about the W211 care and upkeep
were horrible. The 52k mile interval is perfectly safe and is best for the engine.
Each cylinder bank gets its own filter fed by independent intakes. The filtration surface area far exceeds
the engines need for air at full throttle on the 6 and 8 cylinder engines.
Posts like that are bad advice, just like the posts where members say they just do an oil change every
3000-5000 miles. That causes more wear than the 10000 mile interval due to the large oil capacity
and the detergents just keep washing away the protection in the oil until at least 3000 miles is used
with a MB spec oil like the Mobile 1 and other MB spec oils.
Over maintaining can be more harmful than sticking to the vehicle's factory service intervals.
The only area that has changed is the transmission and the differential. If it is 4matic also the front
diff and transfer case. In those drive line components the 2-3 year/40k mile changes will protect and
and add longevity to the components as long as the proper fluids are used.
When I was maintaining generators in Iraq, we never had air filters for some of the generator models. We would just blow them out with low pressure compressed air and put them back in. I saw Caterpiller gen sets with over 10,000 hours that never had an air filter replacement. I would not have believed it had I not seen it with my own eyes. Not recommending that anyone do this, but based on my experience some people do over-maintain their vehicles.
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