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Old 11-16-2007, 09:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question 2003 E320 DIY Motor Oil Change

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I was wondering if I could get any help in the instructions for DIY 2003 E320 Motor Oil Change. I have been searching around for awhile and yet discover any type of DIY instructions. Well... I found the one for 2001 but I was not sure whether it works the same way as the 2003. Also... I was wondering what I would need to purchase from the dealer for the whole process? I would of drop in for the dealer to change the oil for me for free, but my warranty expired a couple months ago.. sucks!

Please advise... Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!

James
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Take it too the dealer so that the correct oil is used in the engine. Also the oil changes at the dealer are done via suction, so there is no removing the oil drain bolt.

My dealer is EXTREMELY reasonable for oil changes, also there are other things that need to be accomplished...so it's not just "an oil change" but a complete inspection.

What does your service manual say in regards to what needs to be done with the mileage on your car? I have a hunch you may need:

-Brake Fluid flush and replacement (every 2 years, 2007= your due)
-Filter servicing (fuel and air if you have more than 50K)
-Oil/filter (MB229.51 oil)
-Differential fluid (check/replace)
-Transmission fluid/filter flush
-Tire rotation and balancing
-Cabin (combination) filter replacement
-Battery(s) check
-Service bulletin compliance check

No such thing as a free servicing, you paid for it they just hid it in the cost of your purchase. Now, if the cost of maintaining the car is a problem because the "free" lunch has ended so to speak...time to buy another car you can afford. Sorry but there is no other way to take the statement when people cry about maintaining a complex piece of machinery the your life is riding in.

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Old 11-20-2007, 07:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I got my kit from ebay and change my own oil. its 8.5 qts. recommended oil is mobil 1 5/30. Filter can be pickup at any dealership or online store.. This compare to spending $180 at the dealership.. Don't get me wrong I can afford the oil change, but I would rather do it myself (aka grease monkey )
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Mobil 1 5w30 IS NOT AN APPROVED OIL FOR ANY MERCEDES!

I wouldn't use that stuff in my lawnmower!

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Old 11-21-2007, 08:19 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Really.. hmmm. I notice on my FSS book they stamp 5-30.. who would you rather take advice from? a guy that's never change his oil or someone who READS and does his own oil change.. You be the judge...

Mercedes motor oil is just a rebranded Mobil 1 (read: FULL Synthetic).. You're just paying $$$ for the Mercedes sticker on the bottle...

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Really.. hmmm. I notice on my FSS book they stamp 5-30.. who would you rather take advice from? a guy that's never change his oil or someone who READS and does his own oil change.. You be the judge...

Mercedes motor oil is just a rebranded Mobil 1 (read: FULL Synthetic).. You're just paying $$$ for the Mercedes sticker on the bottle...
I would suggest arguing with someone else about engine oils. drivbiwire probably knows even more than the MB service manual. Anyway, the oil grade is important, not sure what Mobil 1 5W-30 would be, I guess that can also vary by market.

MB approved oils at this link:
Mercedes-Benz Engine Oil Recommendations

I did not find any Mobil 1 5W-30, other oil brands with this viscosity though, but that is not enough at all.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Really.. hmmm. I notice on my FSS book they stamp 5-30.. who would you rather take advice from? a guy that's never change his oil or someone who READS and does his own oil change.. You be the judge...

Mercedes motor oil is just a rebranded Mobil 1 (read: FULL Synthetic).. You're just paying $$$ for the Mercedes sticker on the bottle...
If those with the stamp would be as accurate as they should be ,we wouldn't need a forum before our cars off warranty....

on the 5-30 label there is a list of approved manufacturers..No MB..
I THINK 0-40 lists MB as approved....
Who do you believe?? The maker of the product or the user?
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The FSS book may stamp 5W-30 oil acceptable but that only covers the viscosity. If you browse the link above, you can find MB approved 5W-30 oil (might not be acceptable throughout all ambient temperatures) but the brands are different. If Mobil decided to produce 5W-30 oil with MB 229.51 or 229.5, I thought this was a gasser and then the "1" is not needed, but is allowed), that would be fine.

If the oil can states the correct viscosity range and the MB approval code for your car (not just MB 229."something"), then you should be safe.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Really.. hmmm. I notice on my FSS book they stamp 5-30.. who would you rather take advice from? a guy that's never change his oil or someone who READS and does his own oil change.. You be the judge...

Mercedes motor oil is just a rebranded Mobil 1 (read: FULL Synthetic).. You're just paying $$$ for the Mercedes sticker on the bottle...
What you fail to understand is that the oils are COMPLETELY different! Yes, they both start out as a "PAO" based oil but that is where they go their seperate ways...The difference is in the additive package and other aspects of the oil itself which are required to meet the specific demands of the Mercedes Benz engines.

The only option (in the US) for a 5w30 is the:
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Mobil 1 ESP 5w30

ACEA C2/C3, A3/B3/B4
ACEA (Meets Engine Test Requirements) A5/B5
API (Meets Engine Test Requirements) SL / SM
API CF

Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 has the following builder approvals:
BMW Longlife 04
Mercedes Benz MB-Approval 229.31/229.51
Volkswagen (Gasoline / Diesel) 504.00 / 507.00
Peugeot Citroen Automobiles E06-N3 / D06-N3

Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30

SAE Grade 5W-30
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40ºC = 72.8
cSt @ 100ºC = 12.1
Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 = 164
Sulphated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 = 0.6
HTHS Viscosity, mPa·s @ 150ºC, ASTM D4683 = 3.58
Pour Point, ºC, ASTM D 97 = -45
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 = 254
Density @ 15ºC, kg/l, ASTM D 4052 = 0.850

Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 is not a common oil, to date the dealers are only using the Mobil 1 ESP 5w40.

The oil that you implied that you use is:
Quote:
Mobil 1 5w30

Mobil 1 5W-30 meets or exceeds the following industry specifications:
ACEA A1,B1
API SM, SL,SJ,EC,CF,CD
ILSAC GF-4

Mobil 1 5W-30 has the following builder approvals:
General Motors Service Fill GM4718M
General Motors Factory Fill GM 6094M
Ford WSS- M2C929-A
Chrysler MS-6395

SAE Grade 5W-30
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40º C = 64.8
cSt @ 100º C = 11.3
Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 = 169
Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 = 1.0
HTHS Viscosity, mPa·s @ 150ºC ASTM D 4683 = 3.09
Pour Point, ºC, ASTM D 5949 = -48
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 = 230
Density @15º C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 = 0.80

It's worth noting that Mobil is specific that the Mobil 1 5w30 is a "General Purpose Oil" translated this oil does not comply with the strict requirments of the MB specifications.

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I decided to purchase the oil and have the MB dealer change it for me. They were willing to do this. As it turns out, my cost for the oil was actually more than what MB charges. Since this is only a once a year thing, it's not worth my time doing it. I, too, am a grease monkey type (actually a mechanical engineer) and I tend to do things far in excess of what others do but in this case, I'll just content myself with wiping dirt off the undersides.
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