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A new Mobil ATF 134 that meets 236.14, 12, and 10

I guess it is too lucrative for Mercedes to get all these $$$ for the secrete ATF so Mobil finally released a brand new 'New and Improved' ATF that meets the latest Mercedes 236.14 specs and also backward compatible to the 236.12 and 236.10 specs.

This fluid was released in Europe but has been sighted at some of the biggest retailer in the world, Wal-Mart in the southeastern states, and "surprisingly" it is priced much less than the price of the bottle carrying the Mercedes logo. The bottle should have 'New and Improved' on the front label and the specs listed on the back label.

You can view the detail in the attached PDF file but here are some highlights.

Product Description
Mobil ATF 134 is an extra high performance automatic transmission fluid formulated with selected HVI base oils are recommended for use in Mercedes automatic gearboxes.

Specifications and Approvals
MB-Approval 236.14

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So this is another choice for our W210 owners to the Vavoline Max Life ATF (236.10 only).
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I'll buy you a beer if you post this in the 163 forum, it will touch off a firestorm.

Good find, thanks for posting it. I'll need this info in another 25K, by then it should be readily available everywhere.

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Apparently, this was available in Europe starting last August.

But, MBUSA still had 40 000 (40k) liters of the 236.12 fluid in hand at the time. (Dealer tech checked system wide inventory.)

Now I guess their stock is a bit low so their partner start releasing this in the USA.

Hope to see it on my local Wal-Mart but I am not counting on it because it has never stocked Mobil 1 0W-40.
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I found out about this new and improved Mobil 1 formula in the W163 forum so they already know....they didn't attach the specs though (PDF)

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So now you can pass on the specs file.

After Greg's post, I went there and saw some really huge "battles" there but I have never read or posted in that forum before.

What I have heard is that Mercedes continues to have "issues" with the 722.9 transmission and this new 236.14 fluid is thinner than the 236.12.

When I have the time, I will compile a table with the viscosity values for all these fluids that have specs sheets available.

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Yes you are correct, here's the "proof" for your case...
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Yes you are correct, here's the "proof" for your case...
Thanks, G-AMG, for the confirmation.

It is interesting to note that the Mobil ATF 134 is the ONLY one listed that is made by a USA manufacturer.
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Actually, if you are interested in ALL the sheets, here's the "Official Latest, and Greatest" site for ALL MB Fluids:

Mercedes-Benz Operating Fluids-Extranet
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Thanks gents,

Good to know, however, I am surprised that there's no listing for Valvoline Maxlife listed in 236.10 section (only Shell 3403). Regardless, Val Maxlife meets 236.10 spec (also Shell 3403 as indicated on the bottle) - which I just happened to pick up 5 quartz at $3.00 each at my local Walmart.

But looks like I may return them. I'll keep an eye on the Mobil1 134, if it's reasonable enough, I'll have to get all 12-14 quarts then.
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OK, here are the viscosity comparisons of the various Mercedes 236.1x ATFs that I can get a hold of. For obvious reasons, I cannot get any info on the secrete Mercedes brand viscosity.

There are many other parameters that are important to the performance of an ATF but here is just a rudimentary comparison of how thick or thin a particular ATF is.

A general observation is that the 226.10 (722.6 or 5-G or NAG1) fluid is thicker than the 236.12 and 14 (722.9 or 7-G or NAG2).
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