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Old 03-17-2008, 07:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Advice on tires / suspension.

Alright so i need some advice before i begin my next mod. I have a 430 with e55 amg monoblock take off's. I am due for new tires by next month or so. Currently i am running 245/40/18 in the front and 275/35/18 in the rear(stock for those wheels). Every time i am going at least 40 mph or faster and there is a huge dip in the road that will compress the suspension one of the front tires will hit the fender. My question is would going to 235/40/18 and 265/35/18 fix that problem or no? The next mod that i want to do shortly after i change the tires i want to install bilstein sport shocks and h&r springs. Of course that is going to drop the car. So i guess my main question is will 235/40/18 and 265/35/18 clear the car or no still to close. Also i noticed that my rear tires have negative camber to them. Is it a must to install a camber kit? Any adivce is greatly appreciated thank you.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You are on the "right" forum for your car, but if you don't get an answer quickly, scroll down the the Technical Forums and you will see one for tires, suspension, etc.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes it will. I just took my AMG Monos off and that is the tire size that I had on. The car never ever rubbed. Tire Rack strongly reccomended that I put the 235's up front and the 265's in the rear.
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Yes it will. I just took my AMG Monos off and that is the tire size that I had on. The car never ever rubbed. Tire Rack strongly recommended that I put the 235's up front and the 265's in the rear.
That is good to hear thanks! I wonder if any handling or feel of the car would be noticeably lost with the slight smaller tire.
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That is good to hear thanks! I wonder if any handling or feel of the car would be noticeably lost with the slight smaller tire.
The ride may improve slightly, but the handling will not suffer at all. The difference is very minimal. Watch the fenders when you lower the car. and get a good alignment.

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The ride may improve slightly, but the handling will not suffer at all. The difference is very minimal. Watch the fenders when you lower the car. and get a good alignment.
Nice thats awesome to hear. yeah most definite will get a good alignment.
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one caveat: there is a slim chance that, given your tire selection (not the size,
but the model) you may still get fender lip rub even with 235/40. why? because
not all tires of the same size, have the same profile. those with nice, tall shoulder
may still (again, not unheard of) touch the lip upon hard compression.

you have a narrow offset up front with the E55 rims. by changing from 245mm
to 235, this only results in 5mm less from the lip. you should gauge the degree
of rubbing (observe where on tire the scrape is occuring) and estimate if the
rubber was 5mm less, would it still rub?

then, you're also proposing offsetting this 'savings' by lowering, thus robbing
what you may have just tried to resolve through smaller tire.

acarter's tire (235) didn't rub, but that's not a guarantee that your's won't.
why? because not all suspensions are the same. different coil/spring rates,
different shock dampening rates, etc etc all factor into this to skew the
evaluation. assessment of the final outcome must take all these specs into
consideration.

by any chance the tire rubbing is the left front?
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HAD A 97 E420 WITH 245/40/18 MICH PILOT SPORTS ALL THE WAY AROUND WITH 31 ET RUBBED IN LEFT FR ONLY ON HARD COMPRESSION.
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one caveat: there is a slim chance that, given your tire selection (not the size,
but the model) you may still get fender lip rub even with 235/40. why? because
not all tires of the same size, have the same profile. those with nice, tall shoulder
may still (again, not unheard of) touch the lip upon hard compression.

you have a narrow offset up front with the E55 rims. by changing from 245mm
to 235, this only results in 5mm less from the lip. you should gauge the degree
of rubbing (observe where on tire the scrape is occuring) and estimate if the
rubber was 5mm less, would it still rub?

then, you're also proposing offsetting this 'savings' by lowering, thus robbing
what you may have just tried to resolve through smaller tire.

acarter's tire (235) didn't rub, but that's not a guarantee that your's won't.
why? because not all suspensions are the same. different coil/spring rates,
different shock dampening rates, etc etc all factor into this to skew the
evaluation. assessment of the final outcome must take all these specs into
consideration.

by any chance the tire rubbing is the left front?
Thank you for your input. Currently the tires that are being used are michelin pilot sports and i bought the rims with these tires. I want to get another summer performance tire since i only use these wheels for the summer anyway. I was thinking of getting new Goodyear eagle f1 gsd3's or there newest tire the asymmetric ( The biggest size they come in are 265). Both current tires have done there share of rubbing but i think i would say the passenger front tire rubs more. I dont know if it has to do with just the way the dips are in the road.The very very outer edge rubs Yeah after the tires rub a piece of spliced rubber is dangling from the tire ( but not so much anymore think it has happened to much now that the front tires dont splice any more rubber) By the way why do you ask only if the front left tire rubs?

Anyway i am guessing the smartest thing to do before i even drop the car with suspension would be to roll the fenders. Any idea how much this costs?
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