^^Wow thatis cheap!! you're correct! $413 on the labor Ouch!
Well, if we want to be "technical" then the labor charge from the dealer is less than $413, because they are not selling the filter at a discount, but at full retail, probably closer to $130, plus tax. So they're only charging something around $360 for labor. Still highway robbery, but with a smaller gun.
That said, ohlord's underlying point is that you can buy the part for that price and save the labor, which at that point is actually the $413 (less tax, of course. )
Take care and enjoy the ride,
Greg
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it's more like $450 for labor!
Like in a hospital when they charge 8 bucks for an aspirin
The dealer charges you $130 FOR THE FILTERS,and only pays $65 and then they hide the rest in clear sight as labor of $370 plus tax.
I guess it is par for the course if they can charge $880 for a MAF that costs them $175 and 10 minutes labor,then all the other labor charges are right in line.
$127 to pull codes
I'm thinking of setting up my 12 year old son with a CEL stand instead of lemonade stand.He could pull codes,do the diagnostics for $50 and really make a killing
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Vehicle: 2001 SLK 320(96K Miles), 2002 E320 Special Edition(113K Miles)
Location: South Bay Area,L.A., CA
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This may not be quite in the line of issues, but more something that I'm surprised nobody has ever brought up to check when buying - the level of the software in the ECU. I checked the records of my car, and even though it is a 2002 model, that is at the end of the W210 series and therefore one would thought that it should have all problems sorted out and stable, the ECU was flashed 3 times with upgrades in the next 2 years. The reason I'm bringing this up is that so much of this car is controlled by the computer, that it can literally make or break the car. I wonder if some of the weird problems people are reporting is not related to outdated ECUs - maybe even due to a less-than-scrupulous or even technologically-challenged dealer.
Of course for those of us that tend to do all maintenance ourself, this becomes even more of a challenge - maybe visit the dealer once a year and try and determine if any new flashes were released? And then nogotiate a price?
This may not be quite in the line of issues, but more something that I'm surprised nobody has ever brought up to check when buying - the level of the software in the ECU. I checked the records of my car, and even though it is a 2002 model, that is at the end of the W210 series and therefore one would thought that it should have all problems sorted out and stable, the ECU was flashed 3 times with upgrades in the next 2 years. The reason I'm bringing this up is that so much of this car is controlled by the computer, that it can literally make or break the car. I wonder if some of the weird problems people are reporting is not related to outdated ECUs - maybe even due to a less-than-scrupulous or even technologically-challenged dealer.
Of course for those of us that tend to do all maintenance ourself, this becomes even more of a challenge - maybe visit the dealer once a year and try and determine if any new flashes were released? And then nogotiate a price?
Hello Kobus,
Hoe do you know whether you have the latest ECU? Or whether it has actually been flashed?
This might be a stupid question, what about independent shop that claims they lease their diag. system from MBZ. Will they be able to flash ECU?
Thank you for your help.
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I'm afraid that is one of the unknowns at the moment. A MB dealer should be able to tell you, but I've never tried to find out. I was hoping somebody with inside information may be able to enlighten us.
Vehicle: 1988 300 TE. 2001 ML 55AMG. 2003 ML350 (now the new service vehicle...)
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 304
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Originally Posted by ohlord
The Workshop MB: E Class 210 Chassis Diagnostic Pricing
sub 211 in the space for the 210 and it gives you some info on the 211 model.
$160 an hour shop rates,that ought to shock some peeps into becoming diy'rs
$510 for spark plugs????all you diy'rs rejoice
$500 for charcoal filters?Did I not just post the diy and they are like 87 bucks,so $413 labor,are they out of there minds.
Well, we are not out of our minds. We have not updated our pricing yet. We use mbz parts. Mercedes made a price drop in parts, and we have not reflected that in our pricing as of yet.
Keep in mind that the actual Mercedes spark plug (not the Bosch equivalent) from the dealer is around $20 to $27 per plug (mbz of Pleasanton, ca), so we are not out of our minds.
Autobahn motors in redwood city: 2002 C240 spark plug service: $695.00.
We are at $498.00 PLUS WE COME TO YOU...
Again, we are not of our minds, it is just that we have not updated our pricing yet.
I have heard from some members that you guys do great work and everyone knows around here I am a devout diy'r and some peeps do need the services of a good shop such as yours,so why buy from MB?oe plugs that match the bosch platins are $2.99 ngk 7090 for the 320 and 430 even the bosch fr8dpp33 is far less from local suppliers. ,autohausaz.com has a shop discount program I think
So get the new price list up and please visit the forum more often,I don't think that you can push your service without being a sponsor but your presence will be noticed and there seems to be a lot of members in your area that can use a shop that tells it like it is,and does good work.
ohlord
Your web site is worth a visit just for the wealth of information you have made available,so many of the FSS plus owners have no idea how rates are figured for the higher letter services and your pdf guides are great for peeps that have lost or never got a manual.
Vehicle: 1988 300 TE. 2001 ML 55AMG. 2003 ML350 (now the new service vehicle...)
Location: Oakland, Ca
Posts: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohlord
I have heard from some members that you guys do great work and everyone knows around here I am a devout diy'r and some peeps do need the services of a good shop such as yours,so why buy from MB?oe plugs that match the bosch platins are $2.99 ngk 7090 for the 320 and 430 even the bosch fr8dpp33 is far less from local suppliers. ,autohausaz.com has a shop discount program I think
So get the new price list up and please visit the forum more often,I don't think that you can push your service without being a sponsor but your presence will be noticed and there seems to be a lot of members in your area that can use a shop that tells it like it is,and does good work.
ohlord
Your web site is worth a visit just for the wealth of information you have made available,so many of the FSS plus owners have no idea how rates are figured for the higher letter services and your pdf guides are great for peeps that have lost or never got a manual.
Thank you. Well the reason that we use the MB plugs is to cover ourselves in case of a breakdown that will be covered under the manufactures warranty, and when they check the parts installed, we want to be SURE that they (MB dealers/MBUSA) does not say "hey, who ever did your service did not use the correct spec parts, so, your failure is not covered". We do not want that. But we are adjusting prices.
We are in website transition at this time, updating pricing, adding more pdf. files for information content, more related/common issues for each vehicle line in the diagnostic category.
Also, for instance, the letter services (A-H), we are posting the updates soon, but here is an example:
The price for services (ABCDEFG or H) are based on mileage and time.
For instance; service “C” on a 2005 E320 with approximately 36,000 miles would be:
Service item 1-(brake inspection):
Service item 2-(engine air filter replacement)
Service item 3-(dust-combination filter replacement)
Service item 5-(fuel filter replacement).
This particular service ranges from $795-$900 at the dealership
Now our charge for the service is approximately $535.00+tax and a $20.00 surcharge.
Plus the convenience of on-site service and a 12 month UNLIMITED mileage service warranty.....
We will be posting also the pdf file on how to read out the required service items in order for clients to have that information ready when calling in for service. This will aid in us giving an accurate price. Like for instance, on the service "C", we are not charging for labor to install the dust/combination filter or to perform the brake inspection. The labor is in replacement of the fuel and air filter (the fuel filter is under the rear seat and you have to replace both sender pump units, a bracket and a line).
are out of warranty and that is why I use the 7090 oe ngk plug it is the closest thing to the original platin single side electrode.I also recently noted that the newer models list NGK as an approved plug so that may save you some concern on that issue and save your customers some money as well.
Keep up the great work and it is nice to see a shop dealing fair and straight up with MB owners,the dealer should take lessons from you and they would regain their Cred
On site serviceGreat idea
It is different stuff for hobbyist and different for professionals ohlord.
I fully understand The Workshop on insisting on OEM parts. Point is, that the parts are cheap comparing to labor. I often have similar situation in my remodeling business. Often customers ask if instead of $35/galon paint, I could use cheaper from Home Depot.
Point is, that the possible material saving might be $60, while risking repeating $1000 job on the top of bad feelings.
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