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Old 05-01-2007, 03:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
farsal
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Will W211 rims fit on W210?

I'm getting a good deal on brand new 17" x 8 J ET 38 rims (A 211 401 3602) from a W211 car with brand new Michilin tyres 245/45/17, the guy just bought the car and upgraded to AMG kit and is selling his stock wheels and tyres, from your experience guys did anyone do this, I checked the bolt sizes on both:

W211 = M14x1.5x21
W210 = M12x1.5x40 alloy wheels
W210 = M12x1.5x21 steel whels

However shorter bolts for W210 are available as well, but the bolt on the 211 is 14 mm, while on 210 is 12 mm, the dealer said the rims won't fit, but I'm not sure because for them it is not in the book that's why they say it won't, but if it is possible what do I need and where to find it?

the offer is valid for two days only.
Please I need your help as soon as possible, if any body experience this without troubles please tell me.

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Old 05-01-2007, 07:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I was just faced with the same decision as I had a good deal offered on a set of W211 rims with decent Pirelli 210 winter tires on them. I was at my mechanic's at the time, so he took one of my 210 rims off and mounted up the 211 rim. It fit no problem, but as you noted already the bolt length is different. My 210 lug bolts were too short, they wouldn't even thread into the hub so I think difference has to be more than just the 2mm. If you were prepared to buy a different set of lug bolts you should be ok.

When we mounted the tire up (on the front wheel) the wheel didn't extend out beyond the side of the car, so it appeared flush. Since we didn't have the right bolts I didn't get to turn the wheel through the full left-to-right range, so I couldn't judge clearance inside the tire well. But I can't see any reason why they wouldn't fit.
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forum members richard/e320, raylee, and I have gone this route, ie fitted 211 rims
onto our 210. so far, after a year, I've noted no problems.

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Old 05-01-2007, 08:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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only trouble is that the tires are the wrong size, so your speedo will be off.
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what is OE size? the tire specs he posted looked pretty close for a conversion, ie
still within a point or two....
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OE tire size is 215 55 16, which gives you a total diameter (tire plus wheel) of 636.5mm. The tire size in question (245 45 17) has a total diameter of 645.5mm or 9mm taller. This will result in fewer revolutions require per mile, which means your speedo will read lower than you are actually traveling. In order to keep the speedometer accurate you should use a 235 45 17 which has a total diameter of 636.5mm, identical to stock.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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W211 uses 14mm lug bolts and W210 uses 12mm lug bolts.

There are "conversion" lug bolts available, but not from Mercedes.

In addition, wheel offset is different, i.e. not as recommended by Mercedes.
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forum members richard/e320, raylee, and I have gone this route, ie fitted 211 rims
onto our 210. so far, after a year, I've noted no problems.

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Yes, I have used it as indicated by you and I have had no problem for many, many months. With 211 2005 rims with wider factory tire
(225-55-16) came with it so I do lose about 2 miles per gallon on high way fuel mileage. That is only negative I can point out. As we know, original tire siz was 215-55-16

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Hey, farsal.

I have those exact wheels on my car.

They fit perfectly with the RAD custom lug bolts.

HOWEVER, you can't use the tires. They will rub on the front when you turn (they hit the upper ball joint stud). Wanna guess how I know?

Max size is 235/45-17.

Another word of caution: Once you change them and lose the extra bit of sidewall, that gap over the wheels is MUCH more apparent, so get ready to do some lowering, too.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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Old 05-01-2007, 09:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hey, farsal.

I have those exact wheels on my car.

They fit perfectly with the RAD custom lug bolts.

HOWEVER, you can't use the tires. They will rub on the front when you turn (they hit the upper ball joint stud). Wanna guess how I know?

Max size is 235/45-17.

Another word of caution: Once you change them and lose the extra bit of sidewall, that gap over the wheels is MUCH more apparent, so get ready to do some lowering, too.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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Thanks alot greg for your response, however I used the tyre size calculator to figure that, W210 originally come with 215/55/16 that's equal to 643 mm in overall diameter, and 235/45/17 is exactly the same in diameter except the tyre is wider, well I already have 225/55/16 which's equal to 652 mm diameter, and equal to 245/45/17, I know they're a bit larger but still within the acceptable range the difference is 1.4% only which's equal to 9mm, still you can go upto 2.5% max. difference up/down in overall diameter, I think my problem is not the tyre size, I'm afraid of the bolt size only, and I like to go a bit wider.

my car is Avangarde which's already low (I think in USA you call it sport) I've seen the cars in USA they have what we call here (Elegance) which's a bit higher (the clearence is visible in mine is not) that's why I'm suffering from pavements in the parkings.
just go to the link below and check the wheel and tyre sizes.

TYRESAVE: Tyre Size Calculator

Appreciate you response guys you're great help

Thanks

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