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Old 05-02-2007, 09:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks alot greg for your response, however I used the tyre size calculator to figure that, W210 originally come with 215/55/16 that's equal to 643 mm in overall diameter, and 235/45/17 is exactly the same in diameter except the tyre is wider, well I already have 225/55/16 which's equal to 652 mm diameter, and equal to 245/45/17, I know they're a bit larger but still within the acceptable range the difference is 1.4% only which's equal to 9mm, still you can go upto 2.5% max. difference up/down in overall diameter, I think my problem is not the tyre size, I'm afraid of the bolt size only, and I like to go a bit wider.

Hi, Farsal.

One of the reasons we have this forum is to share our experiences so we don't have to reinvent the wheel (no pun intended).

I spent literally months researching to find the wheels and tires I wanted for my car, only to have to replace the tires in the end because I trusted the exact same calculations on which you are relying. The difference between you and I is that I didn't have the benefit of anyone's experience and advice, and while you have that benefit, you're apparently content to ignore it.

While the OD of the 245/45/17 and the 225/55/16 are the same, you can run the 225/55/16s with 211 wheels just fine on your 210. (I also know that from personal experience.)

But the extra width and mild offset change means you CANNOT run the 245/45/17 on that wheel on your 210. Whether you choose to believe me or not, it will indeed rub in the front when you turn. So either you need to drop one size on the front (back is no problem for size) or you'll need spacers on the front, which is dumb.

I was trying to save you from the headaches I went through. But if you don't want to heed knowledgeable, sound advice, charge right ahead and find out for yourself. Just don't waste my time in the future.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I am running 245/40-18s in front with rare fender rubbing - only during hard
compression at high speed. But bear in mind that the ET is 30....thereby moving
the tire away from the infamous nut.

Your calculations show you're carefully looking at the critical specs, so that's
always good. But I see that in doing so (in using the wheel calc engine) it's
absent an important factor.... lateral dimension, ie tire width.

So, try this engine and see if that changes how strongly you feel about using
a 245 on a rim with ET 38.

Wheel Offset Calculator

you're not just concerned with the TALLER tire, but that it is wider. the 1" differential....with
same offset rims (ET38 on 16" as well as ET38 on 17") means that the tire will be half inch
towards the offending nut.....as well as half inch encroaching to the fender. add to that, any
plans to lower the car and you'll be looking at some serious clearance issues.
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Old 05-03-2007, 05:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Greg,

I agree with you on the reasons we have this forum is to share our experiences so we don't have to reinvent the wheel, that's why I'm here to discuss with you guys and gain some knowledge about the tasks that I plan to do, if I was ignorant I wouldn't be here, I would just go and fix the wheels on my car without consulting anybody, or on the other hand just listen to MB dealer and forget about the deal, anyway thank you very much for your time.


Raymond,

I appreciate your help, that offset calculator is very helpful, and the pic you posted made it very clear to me.


However I'm very close from dropping the idea from my mind, I like wider tyres, but I think that I should go for an offset around (ET34) in order to keep the wheel centered in the wheel compartment.
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what do you think of putting 211 wheels from a E320 2004 with 225/55/16 on a 2001 E320 S
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what do you think of putting 211 wheels from a E320 2004 with 225/55/16 on a 2001 E320 S
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Hi, Remtz.

They'll fit fine and look much better, those were the first ones I put on mine (and I have a set for sale if you're interested, pristine condition and the Michelins on them have about 3/5 of their life left...). The tires are slightly larger but will fit just fine, be aware your speedo will be slow by a few miles an hour, so watch the speeding.

You will, however, need custom lug bolts as the 211 chassis uses 14M bolts with a R14 ball seat.

Welcome to Otis Inc., LA sells the RAD (Germany) brand for around $60 a set including shipping, they are R14 ball seat with the M12 threads.

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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Thanks alot greg for your response, however I used the tyre size calculator to figure that, W210 originally come with 215/55/16 that's equal to 643 mm in overall diameter, and 235/45/17 is exactly the same in diameter except the tyre is wider, well I already have 225/55/16 which's equal to 652 mm diameter, and equal to 245/45/17, I know they're a bit larger but still within the acceptable range the difference is 1.4% only which's equal to 9mm, still you can go upto 2.5% max. difference up/down in overall diameter, I think my problem is not the tyre size, I'm afraid of the bolt size only, and I like to go a bit wider.

my car is Avangarde which's already low (I think in USA you call it sport) I've seen the cars in USA they have what we call here (Elegance) which's a bit higher (the clearence is visible in mine is not) that's why I'm suffering from pavements in the parkings.
just go to the link below and check the wheel and tyre sizes.

TYRESAVE: Tyre Size Calculator

Appreciate you response guys you're great help

Thanks
I have the American Sport version with 235/45/17 stock wheels. I was under the impression that the Sport and Non Sport models had the same exact suspension set up. Is my car lower than non Sport models? Are is that the case in Europe only?
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