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Old 02-21-2007, 11:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry This guy is an ass!


This is a review from edmonds


To insure the accuracy of my Epinion, I visited the websites of both companies (mbusa.com and 4adodge.com). While exploring I found the E-430 closely compared to the Dodge Stratus in almost every way. Ok, I understand that you like the Mercedes concept; so do I. However, so long as an automobile is going to be my primary mode of transportation, I do not want to spend $50,000+ when I can get almost the same thing and save about $25,000. The decision depends on you and your tastes. Personally, I would recommend the Stratus and save the money for an S-500. (Unfortunately the S 600 isn?t available in the US, yet.)


Once inside, I was shocked at the lack of space. It was relatively small thanks to an almost 2 ? foot wide console. While able to accept only one cup (not a large one from ӍcDonald?s). Who gets the child size when on the way back to work from lunch? Anyway, Everything was very well set up. The fit and finish was in traditional Mercedes form. The instrument cluster is looking tired. Mercedes needs desperately to update that. Additionally, the audio, phone and climate controls might seem difficult to a first time MB owner. I suggest reading the manual, for your own sake and a lot of hassle.

The only other complaint was the ride quality. Although the pick up is excellent, the ride isn?t nearly what I had expected from a Mercedes sedan. Maybe I am picky, but my Mother?s Chrysler LHS rides better. I don?t know that I would really care about the fuel economy if I had a Mercedes in the driveway, so I really didn?t pay attention to that. The other pricey item is the auto-start (aftermarket) is about $800-1,400 installed. Again, if I have a Mercedes, I probably have a garage, too. I do. J

In closing, hats off to MBUSA for their continuing efforts to create the most attractive and ballsy cars on the road; however, I believe that there should be more bang for the buck.

(When non car guys talk cars)

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Old 02-22-2007, 08:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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well, he does make some decent points. The cup holder is in a bad spot, and isn't very sturdy, the hvac and radio are somewhat confusing, and while the console isn't that wide, I guess it does suck up some room.

Overall I think he is fairly positive on it.

Oh, and I also don't think the car rides very softly. Its not harsh, but it hits potholes and bumps pretty hard.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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he did state at the bottom that he's not a car guy...so obviously most non car guys drive Statuses LOL
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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he did state at the bottom that he's not a car guy...so obviously most non car guys drive Statuses LOL
I think that was acarter53's comment.

You know that person is mentally ill when they compare a 210 to a Stratus.

Its like comparing a W124 Mercedes E-Class to a Mercury Topaz and calling them "near equals".
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't think he was calling them equals.

I think he meant that in terms of getting from point A to point b, they were both able to complete the task in a pleasant manner.
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[quote=DslBnz]I think that was acarter53's comment.
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oh yeah, woops!
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't think he was calling them equals.

I think he meant that in terms of getting from point A to point b, they were both able to complete the task in a pleasant manner.
No... I believe that is what he intended.

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To insure the accuracy of my Epinion, I visited the websites of both companies (mbusa.com and 4adodge.com).
While exploring I found the E-430 closely compared to the Dodge Stratus in almost every way. Ok, I understand that you like the Mercedes concept; so do I. However, so long as an automobile is going to be my primary mode of transportation, I do not want to spend $50,000+ when I can get almost the same thing and save about $25,000. The decision depends on you and your tastes. Personally, I would recommend the Stratus and save the money for an S-500. (Unfortunately the S 600 isn?t available in the US, yet.)

His point seems quite obvious to me. Specifically stating the Dodge Stratus is a near equal car for all points and purposes as the 210.
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Old 02-23-2007, 06:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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well what is the purpose of a car? To get from point a to b in relative comfort.

A stratus may be just as comfortable, may have similar options, and may get him to his location without reliability problems. It may not have fine corinthian leather, but you don't really NEED that in a car.

Obviously a 430 will have more power than a stratus, and the materials will be of higher quality, but in terms of operating solely as a vehicle (i.e. just driving, no coddling, luxury, etc) they may be similar.

Bottom line, we don't know this guy, we don't know what he meant, but until we do, is there really a reason to call him an ass?
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Old 02-23-2007, 07:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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well then, they all have 4 wheels , all the same cars ... I still will choose Mercedes !
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Bottom line, we don't know this guy, we don't know what he meant, but until we do, is there really a reason to call him an ass?
No. Its his opinion, and he's entitled to it.

He's just wrong. That's my opinion.
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