Hey All,
As many of you know the new oil filters don't have the by-pass
portion of the filter like the older diesel cars had, but a the
same time the recommended oil drain interval has more than
doubled. This worries me.I saw on an on-line parts place where
the Mann filter for the E300 stated on the web page: "Original
paper version for 000 180 26 09 fleece filter." Why would there
be any switching?
I'm just wondering if MB intentionally meant for the fleece
filter to be used originally. Why are they different for the gas
cars and the diesel ones? The two filters look about the same
size from the picture. I don't want to run this thing in the
ground. I just want to know that I'm using the correct oil
filter for my car to clean out its oil. I hope you can
understand. I wouldn't want to know what a full rebuild of a 606
would cost. Marshall Booth is on record saying that Mobil 1 has
reduced by 1/2 the timing chain wear rate, and thus pretty much
making the timing chain last until 300,000 or 400,000 miles
before 5 or so degrees of stretch are reached. This would make
it last the life of the car for most of us. I just want to make
sure that I'm not going backwards by using the wrong filter. I
am in the Marine Corps Reserve. I'm going to Huntsville, AL for
a drill weekend. On the way I'm going past Crown Mercedes in
Birmingham(Hoover, AL). I'll ask them if MB made a change
somewhere and look at the Mercedes-Benz branded filters
In the attached file it says:
ACEA extended drain specifications for gasoline and diesel
engines are A3/B3, A3/B4 and A5/B5. These specifications, such
as the Mercedes Benz MB 229.5 allow for service up to 30,000km
(18,641 miles) when used with a special fleece oil filter. Of
note, only full synthetic oils have been able to meet the MB
229.5 specifications." ... "Synthetic filtration fibers are at
the heart of extended drain interval filters and are beginning
to become more widespread in their application. One of the more
interesting developments in filter technology has apparently
been driven by the need for a product that can withstand the
ultra-long drain intervals of the MB 229.5 specification oils.
MANN+HUMMEL has developed the filter that has a polyester fleece
filter element design to work for the 30,000 kilometer (18,641
mile) drain interval, and incorporates a special support
structure that helps the filter last. Furthermore, this filter
dispenses with all metal it is 100% plastic and therefore has
a lower potential for environmental impact. While not
widespread, the MANN+HUMMEL filter technology could be a glimpse
at the future should extended drain intervals become the norm."
the new oil filters didn't look like they had a bypass
filter like the old filters seemed to, but at the same time the
oil filter change interval was more than doubled by the
recommendation of the FSS system to go up to 10,000 to 18,000
miles. I read some about fleece oil filters that MB uses that
supposedly by someones message at eclassbenz.com:
In 1998, Mercedes introduced its Flexible Service System (FSS)
oil life monitoring system. When used with approved long-life
oils, FSS allows owners to extend their oil change interval to
10,000 to 20,000 miles, depending on driving conditions. The use
of high quality, synthetic, long-life oils and long-life fleece
oil filters is critical to going the extended distance between
oil changes without harming the engine. A list of approved
synthetic oils follows.
Specifically, you must use oil certified by Mercedes specs 229.5
or 229.51. Oils meeting the MB 229.3 spec are also okay, but not
preferable. The back of the oil bottle will indicate which MB
specs it meets, if any. The 229.5/229.51 oils include:
* Mobil 1 ESP Formula M (5W-40) 229.51
* Castrol Syntec European Formula (0W-30) 229.5
* Elf Excellium (0W-30) 229.5
* Mobil 1 Synthetic European Car Formula (OW-40) 229.5
* Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic European Formula Ultra (5W-30)
- 229.5
* Quaker State European Formula Ultra (5W-30) 229.5
Among these options, Mobil 1 0W-40 is the easiest to acquire and
best all-around performer. This particular oil is even carried
at Wal*Mart. At the time this story was posted, Mobil 1 ESP
Formula M 5W-40 had just been brought to market. This oil is
superior, albeit more difficult to locate. Note that no other
Mobil 1 oils are approved for use in any 1998+ Mercedes-Benz
car.
If you plan on following the FSS service intervals, you must
also purchase fleece (as opposed to paper) oil filters. The
fleece oil filters do a better job of filtering junk out of the
oil and last longer than the cheaper paper variety. The fleece
oil filters are available on-line from most any Mercedes parts
vendor.
If you dont plan to adhere to the FSS service intervals and
will change your oil more frequently (e.g. every 5,000 miles),
you can probably go with paper filters and good quality
synthetic oil that meets the API SM and/or ACEA B3
specification.
http://www.mercedes-benz-parts-direc...lters-pans.asp
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