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Old 11-25-2006, 09:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Convertible problems

I’m having issues with my convertible roof.

When the top is down and locked, everything works great.

But when the top is up it acts as if it is not finished.
The switch stays lit, no auditory confirmation is heard, and the windows don’t go up.
Then the trunk won’t open and as I drive the switch flashes.

I’ve checked to make sure the roof is secure and so is the rear deck so I assume there is a switch that is acting up somewhere that is supposed to tell the car that the roof is secure.

I’d appreciate any input before I have to take the car to the stealership.
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Old 11-26-2006, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I can sympathize with convertible problems. My problem did not have the same symptoms. HOWEVER, one thing that made me raise an eyebrow was the fact that your trunk won't open (probably with the key fob, correct?). Well, to make a long story short, all of my convertible problems were fixed when my trunk lock was changed....go figure. So the trunk lock MAY be the 'switch' you refer to that is acting up. It was not easy to diagnose. 2 mechanics in Florida (where I bought the car) looked at it. One couldn't figure it out. The other was heading down the wrong road (now I know!) before I insisted that I get it fixed by somebody I knew (home in MD). When I got it home and took it to my shop, it just so happens another CLK was in for the same thing (soft top was NOT operational) so they fixed it without hardly any diagnosis or tracing out of wires.

I caution you though because again, you are not having operational problems with the top. And frankly, if you take it to the stealership, they may ignore your insistence to take a look at the trunk lock (arrogance?). By the way, if the soft top switch light is flashing, that is an indication that there is a malfunction in the convertible system, possibly something isn't 'locked'. It could be that a faulty trunk lock is sending incorrect information to the soft top's computer (yes, it has it's own computer...) or the main computer, meaning the light will flash. Not sure but the trunk lock is suspect to me. There are some issues with trunk locks on the convertibles (not sure about the coupes). Good luck and let me know what you find out.
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Old 11-26-2006, 09:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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probably with the key fob, correct?
Correct, it has to be opened with the manual key

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soft top was NOT operational
The top will retract and go back up one time but will then stop working untill the car is turned off and restarted.

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It could be that a faulty trunk lock is sending incorrect information to the soft top's computer
This is a definite possibilty.

Does anyone have a diagram of the electrical system or a complete DIY manual for these vehicles?
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Correct, it has to be opened with the manual key


The top will retract and go back up one time but will then stop working untill the car is turned off and restarted.


This is a definite possibilty.

Does anyone have a diagram of the electrical system or a complete DIY manual for these vehicles?
I was looking over the shoulder of one of the FL mechanics that was going thru the electical diagram book. I can't tell you how confusing it was. I hope you're an electrician! One thing you could do is buy a trunk lock (make sure from a place where you can return it...) and put it in. If it works...voila! If not, take the part back! I'm sure I could have done this swap. The only thing is, you still may need a STAR computer to possibly clear error codes. Keep me posted. I'm interested in seeing what happens.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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CLK430 convertible problem

now my convertible key is not functioning it only flashing!! should I check my trunk lock first? how much it cost for a trunk lock replacement?

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I can sympathize with convertible problems. My problem did not have the same symptoms. HOWEVER, one thing that made me raise an eyebrow was the fact that your trunk won't open (probably with the key fob, correct?). Well, to make a long story short, all of my convertible problems were fixed when my trunk lock was changed....go figure. So the trunk lock MAY be the 'switch' you refer to that is acting up. It was not easy to diagnose. 2 mechanics in Florida (where I bought the car) looked at it. One couldn't figure it out. The other was heading down the wrong road (now I know!) before I insisted that I get it fixed by somebody I knew (home in MD). When I got it home and took it to my shop, it just so happens another CLK was in for the same thing (soft top was NOT operational) so they fixed it without hardly any diagnosis or tracing out of wires.

I caution you though because again, you are not having operational problems with the top. And frankly, if you take it to the stealership, they may ignore your insistence to take a look at the trunk lock (arrogance?). By the way, if the soft top switch light is flashing, that is an indication that there is a malfunction in the convertible system, possibly something isn't 'locked'. It could be that a faulty trunk lock is sending incorrect information to the soft top's computer (yes, it has it's own computer...) or the main computer, meaning the light will flash. Not sure but the trunk lock is suspect to me. There are some issues with trunk locks on the convertibles (not sure about the coupes). Good luck and let me know what you find out.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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now my convertible key is not functioning it only flashing!! should I check my trunk lock first? how much it cost for a trunk lock replacement?

thanks
Convertible 'key'? I guess you mean the light on the switch is flashing. That def. means 'malfunction'. Make NO mistake, this repair (to make the soft top work) can be expensive. Why? Diagnosis of the problem. However, since I've been thru it, you may be able to cut to the chase. I'll check my receipt and let you know what the part cost. It should take about an hour for them to put it in (so whatever your shop charges per hour X 1). But you know that book they go by to determine the time it takes to make a repair [i]may[i] tell them to charge you 3 hours...LOL.
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Old 11-30-2006, 09:33 AM   #7 (permalink)
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thanks for the repond, (convertible key) I mean "the switch to open the soft top"
is there a reset button to reset the cycle of the convertible motors to the default stage? anyway...so what's broken? the convertible switch or the trunk lock ??
since I just had the car for over a week , I'll probably bring it back to the dealer have them fix it. thanks.

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Convertible 'key'? I guess you mean the light on the switch is flashing. That def. means 'malfunction'. Make NO mistake, this repair (to make the soft top work) can be expensive. Why? Diagnosis of the problem. However, since I've been thru it, you may be able to cut to the chase. I'll check my receipt and let you know what the part cost. It should take about an hour for them to put it in (so whatever your shop charges per hour X 1). But you know that book they go by to determine the time it takes to make a repair [i]may[i] tell them to charge you 3 hours...LOL.
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Old 11-30-2006, 07:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't know of a reset switch for the soft top.
If you've only had the ride for a week, take that baby back immediately.
By the way, does the trunk unlock with the key fob? What year is your car?
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It's a 2001 CLK430 .. with the key fob the trunk work fine!
anyway, I've noticed a green button inside the trunk, I think that was the trunk unlock/reset or something like that, after playing with that button and the trunk lock system for a while, I've got the soft top working again .. and it's been work fine since then .. thanks to your post ..without reading it , I wouldn't know the trunk lock had anything to do with the convertible top!
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It's a 2001 CLK430 .. with the key fob the trunk work fine!
anyway, I've noticed a green button inside the trunk, I think that was the trunk unlock/reset or something like that, after playing with that button and the trunk lock system for a while, I've got the soft top working again .. and it's been work fine since then .. thanks to your post ..without reading it , I wouldn't know the trunk lock had anything to do with the convertible top!
Good deal. Didn't cost ya a penny!
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