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InCarTronics · 07-15-2009, 08:45 AM

Thanks for the feedback namurphy.... trust me, they spin without you knowing. I have had a SL500 and tires laaaast, I have had an S55 and it eats them like a 10 year old eating halloween candy, I have a CL65 and it spits them out every few months (and I have TRIED to make them last on the AMG cars, to no avail)

namurphy · 07-15-2009, 09:29 AM

Thanks. I feel a little better knowing I am not crazy and this seems to be the norm. But HOLY S**T!!! I definetly am going to get another brand and try some touring tires. I really dont need that soft of a tire!!! Thanks to all for the feed back!!! I guess owning an AMG is as expensive a hobby as golf

PEACE

C63Robert · 07-15-2009, 11:54 PM

I just replaced my rear tires at 5,500 miles...they wore evenly so no issues with inflation or camber. To save a couple hundred dollars, I bought new tires at the Tire Rack and had them shipped to a local performance center for mounting and balance. Still not cheap. Hopefully by the time these rear tires wear out the fronts will also need replacing...then I am going to switch to the Michelin Pilot Sport tires. I had the same issue with my Maserati Gransport (Pirelli stock tires with premature balding) and switched to the Pilots...they handled as well and lasted a lot longer. The price is almost exactly the same.

msbarsi · 07-16-2009, 05:56 AM

Hi namurphy I've had a good look at your tire and I know the type of tire you got in your car since, from what I understand, you have Pirelli PZero Rosso in your car but burning them after 3,500 miles is crazy even for the PZeros. All of us know Pirelli tyres are not known to be a type of tyres that last long miles and especially the Zeros aren't but since I had a set of the same tyres you have in your car on a 2000 SL320 V6 (224 BHPs) and I do demand a lot in terms of grip and stress to my tyres the Rossos lasted in my car about ~12,500 miles. But the PZero Rossos have this feature that they don't work well when cold and I actually noticed the difference cold/warm tyres so I used to warm them up like they do in a Formula1 warm up lap fashion before the race starts especially during winter. More, still looking at your pic I can notice a very uneven wear of your tyre so my guess is like previously stated that you had the wrong pressure in your tyres and by a fair amount. Also I think that the chance that you got a set of defective tyre might be taken to account either so if I were you I'd have my tyres inspected just in case.
3,500 miles out of a set of PZero Rosso is definitely not normal even for a C63 IMHO.

Hope it helps.

Cheers.

P.s. I'll never touch a set of Michelins in my life again but that's my personal preference.

C63AMG Rob · 07-23-2009, 02:22 PM

mine where way worse,I'm on my 3rd set

Jomzo · 09-16-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InCarTronics

I have an interesting question... if you 'baby' the pedal when you leave a stop, and drive slowly, WHY ON EARTH DID YOU GET A C63?????

You should have gotten a C230 instead. That engine is there for a reason, and you would have to feather the pedal ever so carefully to keep it from slipping the rear tires (not noticable to the driver unless you really hammer the pedal).

Truth!

201mph · 10-22-2009, 03:10 PM

My rear tires lasted 8500 miles, most of it highway driving. I average over 20mpg... so its not like I'm spinning the tires at every launch.

Note:
The treadwear rating on the Pirellis is only 220. There are other Pirellis in the same size with a 400 treadwear rating, so I'm going to try those.

Pricing note:
MB dealer: oe P Zeros $668/pair
Tire Rack: same tire $603/pair incl. FedEx ground.

Tire Rack: alt. Pirellis: $425/pair incl Fed Ex ground.

kent426 · 10-23-2009, 06:28 PM

I agree, I believe the tires were over inflated. Also, summer miles on extremely hot asphalt will melt them quickly. I don't know a single racer that has anything good about the Pirelli Zero's, I just switched mine out although I managed 24K on my c55 but it was like ice skating. I went to Dunlop Star Specs. Another decent wearing Ultra high po tire I used was the Nitto NT555.

mlfun · 10-24-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kent426

..., I just switched mine out although I managed 24K on my c55 but it was like ice skating...

Ah, the indestructibility of youth...

chiefrock · 10-29-2009, 07:15 PM

2002c230 is right. Look at the sides of the tire, the wear is very slight. However the center is almost like a slick tire. You can buy a tire thermometer in a performance shop and analyze where the tire is the hottest and adjust your PSI. The most important thing is that the tires wear out evenly. Also if you change them, keep them for drag racing if you have room for them at your home (at least the back ones!).

A 220 tread wear is not supposed to be that bad! My race tires had wear rating of 40 and lasted longer than 3000 miles (not always driving on the track though).

If you look at the center lines, there aren't any waves for water traction, meaning when these will wear out, you'll lose all traction on wet surfaces. That's the problem cause even the wear you show on your picture would be ok on any drive pavement.

On a race track, big powerful RWD cars always much much slower when raining (seen an integra type R pass a dodge viper). Going for a tire with good wet traction and dry traction is the smart thing to do.

Suggestion:

I have had great experiences with Hankook tires. The current Ventus V12 evo model looks good and is dead cheap (280 tread wear). Awesome bang for the buck for race/street applications. This company is very underated. A lot of guys with Z06 and high end corvettes use them and that's a very similar car traction wise.

At their price, stop worrying, ride em really hard and change them every year if you want!