Im looking for answer. What is the problem with that C36

[[PL]Camel-]

Hello,

I asked the same question on the German W202 board and there is no reply.

I would like to discuss about some C36 which is imported from Germany to Poland (in fact it doesn't matter).

Here you can see the C36. C36 AMG 3.6L '95 OKAZJA !!!! (807417129) - Aukcje internetowe Allegro Under the link is kind of ebay, but more popular in PL. Look at the pics.

If you are observant, the car almost do not have got any of AMG optical part. There is no side skrits, bumpers, steering wheel with part of white leather, even the white "background" of instrument cluster, which is I think, one of the domain of C36. It looks like sb want to hide the real capability (rims and exhaust - wtf?! ). But we can suppose crash and cheap repairing (typical for polish, turkish dealers etc.), but the problem is lack of even if the white "background" of instrument cluster... Why? Its a detail, what is a connection with crash?

What do you think about this car? It is known that car had been leave the showroom with every AMG additional part. Which is contain in VIN . WDB2020281F336610.
It is possible that sb want really to built the typical W202 with AMG power?

Greetings

[viejo1221]

That is very strange. And the black instrument cluster still says AMG. A sleeper 280... I don't know about that.

[LAMF]

Hood emblem delete and lowered proves somebody modded it. Meaning they just added a 3.6 cross over intake, the valve cover badge, and the AMG instrument background. Its a c280

[[PL]Camel-]

Thanks for replies.

Engine according to VIN is M 104.941, which is 3,6L from AMG. Options say, it would must be a very rich C 280, in Europe standards of course, so I don't believe it really is 2,8L.

There is no emblem because (I guess) sb repair the mask without changing it after a little accident in front (seller told me that he have replaced lights, and bumper; screws on front belt over radiators are in paint, it shouldn't be - it's signal it was painted; air condition was too refixed - owner refill freon...).

Why the car left factory with AMG optical bodykit and why sb do sth like that... it is sic... :/

Tomorrow Im gonna look at it, including drive test... I drove genuine C 280 M104 so I will have a comparison

PS> All wheels are 7,5Jx17. I thought the C36 always having 8,5J in rear. Is that right?

[viejo1221]

Originally Posted by [PL]Camel-

PS> All wheels are 7,5Jx17. I thought the C36 always having 8,5J in rear. Is that right?

Correct, they were staggered.

[BenzMaster19]

Most likely its a regular C280, that '95 cluster never had the AMG symbol above the Speedo needle, it was below, and it was never black. The Steering wheel is a regular Mercedes one aswell. To know 100% you would have to check the left side of the engine block and see if it shows AMG and the engine part number exclusive to AMG engines only engraved in the cast iron block. But still that would only tell you that the "engine" is the 3.6 AMG... Then you would have to do a proper search with the VIN and see if its a genuine C36.
What do the brakes look like?? Are they the 4 Piston brakes?? I could tell by looking at the differential aswell, Since I have both a C280 and a C36 AMG.

[[PL]Camel-]

that '95 cluster never had the AMG symbol above the Speedo needle

Good point! But before facelifting was two types of instrument: without CAN (up to 09.95) and with CAN with buttons on side (from 09.95). The car has a CAN-bus and have a "new type". Look at here:

YouTube - Mercedes C36 AMG Beschleunigung 0-130...

the same "problem". And the C43 original instrument look

YouTube - C43 AMG 100-200km

Isn't strange?

According to numbers at blocks - thanks for advise, I'll look there And I don't know what breaks are there, but I know how the AMG's looks

My theory says, sb had crashed the C36 in German. He had got a cash in compensation and smashed car. He sold the most valuable parts (instrument, rims, maybe bumpers, etc) and after that sold car in shape what it was. Sb fixed it with have not a lot money and we have got... this flower


In comparing this one cost little less than really original C36. 13,900 PLN is about $4,800. Other C36 cost from 20,000 to 30,000 PLN which is $7,000 to $10,500 We can see the difference in prize... and in look...


edit: look in 0:37.

You Tube

At the speedometer

[BenzMaster19]

I don't know how the AMG symbol would be "above" the speedo needle on the "old" cluster.. I have a friend that has a '95 C36 with the "old" speedo and the AMG symbol is UNDER the speedo needle. I have a '96 and it has the SAME speedo cluster as the 2nd video you have on your last post and the AMG is "above" the AMG speedo needle.
And yeah, on the side on the block if its a TRUE 3.6 AMG engine you will see engraved AMG **** (only 4 numbers) which is the engine numbers only specific to the C36 AMG's,, Regular C280's will have only M104 *** **** *** (a lot more numbers etc..)...

[[PL]Camel-]

Really thank you

I don't know how the AMG symbol would be "above" the speedo needle on the "old" cluster.. I have a friend that has a '95 C36 with the "old" speedo and the AMG symbol is UNDER the speedo needle. I have a '96 and it has the SAME speedo cluster as the 2nd video you have on your last post and the AMG is "above" the AMG speedo needle.

And this is OK. Old has under, newer has above the needle

Thanks again for tip

Greetings.

[markland556]

This car sounds like a nightmare. You know its been crashed and sold for parts already.. I would just walk away from something like this. Im the first one to hop on a good deal.. but this... your going to end up spending alot of money down the road.. I can already tell.