Vehicle: 1986 190E 2.3-16, 1992 190E 2.3 and 2007 GL450
Location: new york city
Posts: 820
The motor easily achieves 80 celsius and maintains it. I warmed it up to the point that the hoses were pressurized. There are no hisses and no leaks. This is a radiator filled with Prestone Flush. I smelled various smells which turned out to be foam pad residue burning up on the exhaust manifold.
The motor stalled one time in numerous circles around the block where I live. This is probably because the gasoline may be contaminated with residue from the storage period of the car. Otherwise, it pulls strong. Popping the clutch at stops chirps the tires and the acceleration is smooth and powerful.
The exhaust is clear. There are no exhaust leaks.
One of the tires has cupped during storage and the car drives out of balance down the road. I cannot find a Pirelli dealer near me so I will switch over to Michelin filled with nitrogen.
I replaced most of the sensors at the front of the head. The serpentine belt is now new.
There are new rubber bulkhead seals and a battery. The photo emphasizes the lack of attention the car got over 22 years. This is changing.
The car is through phase one of its restoration. In the third photo, the car has completed several runs around the block and the cooling system checks out. The cooling system now has to cool and be drained. Then a water flush will follow and then a fill with Prestone antifreeze.
Second phase is a diagnostic of the motor and inspection.
This is probably because the gasoline may be contaminated with residue from the storage period of the car.
No disrespect intended, but why would you run the car and subject the intake system to contaminated fuel? I would have expected that the tank was drained, removed and pressure cleaned, then the screen changed and the fuel filter replaced before driving the car.
Vehicle: 1986 190E 2.3-16, 1992 190E 2.3 and 2007 GL450
Location: new york city
Posts: 820
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Originally Posted by MTI
No disrespect intended, but why would you run the car and subject the intake system to contaminated fuel? I would have expected that the tank was drained, removed and pressure cleaned, then the screen changed and the fuel filter replaced before driving the car.
The seller gave me a lengthy explanation that the old fuel was removed and a new fuel pump and filter assembly was installed in the car. He told me any crud in the tank was removed by chemical cleaning.
I am certain he was not fabricating this information. I believe he and his family prepped the car in some way prior to sale. However, in my extended and learned observation, the car exhibits bugs that I am reporting here.
I do not mean to reveal that I am blundering my way through this restoration. Instead, I keep saying I already had a similar car for years and I am restoring the new car exactly according to my experience and judgment.
So the stalling in my opinion may come from contaminated fuel residue, water or other by-product of 22 years of storage. I do not believe cylinder pressure is the issue because the motor is very smooth at idle. I do not believe its the electrical system because as I accelerate, there is no knocking and no loss of power.
The seller gave me a lengthy explanation that the old fuel was removed and a new fuel pump and filter assembly was installed in the car. He told me any crud in the tank was removed by chemical cleaning.
I am certain he was not fabricating this information. I believe he and his family prepped the car in some way prior to sale. However, in my extended and learned observation, the car exhibits bugs that I am reporting here.
Belief is one thing, seeing the paperwork and receipts for the work claimed is another. Actually, just eyeballing a proportedly new fuel pump and filter is pretty easy way to confirm.
My point of view may appear jaundiced and overly skeptical, but it's no secret that most sellers of used cars will stretch the truth or outright lie when selling their goods. I've never been let down by taking all descriptions by sellers with more than just a pinch of salt and disbelief.
Vehicle: 1986 190E 2.3-16, 1992 190E 2.3 and 2007 GL450
Location: new york city
Posts: 820
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTI
Belief is one thing, seeing the paperwork and receipts for the work claimed is another. Actually, just eyeballing a proportedly new fuel pump and filter is pretty easy way to confirm.
My point of view may appear jaundiced and overly skeptical, but it's no secret that most sellers of used cars will stretch the truth or outright lie when selling their goods. I've never been let down by taking all descriptions by sellers with more than just a pinch of salt and disbelief.
I saw the new pump and filter because I crawled under the car during negotiations. The work was neatly done and the parts work correctly.
I also believe no one. I inspect, check and verify.
For example, in this photo, I inspected the car by removing panels and checking hidden components. This is a photo of the plumbing leading into the heater core. The clamps work properly, but the little hoses needed replacement which I did and this is a photo of the final result.
In the end the car is amazing and I cannot believe it's mine.
dammit im so jealous wish i had the cash to get an almost new 2.3-16
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Totaled 6-27-05: 1985 MB 190e 2.3
1987 MB 190e 2.3-- sold
1993 MB 190E 2.3---work in progress
1996 Volvo 855 GLT
I need a benz bad........
Vehicle: 1986 190E 2.3-16, 1992 190E 2.3 and 2007 GL450
Location: new york city
Posts: 820
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Originally Posted by Jippi
dammit im so jealous wish i had the cash to get an almost new 2.3-16
It's not only the price for the basic car along with the 3G's of additional parts and other costs. It's the luck of one day reading in this forum that such a car exists, is for sale and is within 20 minutes of one's home. It's also the skill of zeroing in on the car's problems to be able to fix it.
Vehicle: 1986 190E 2.3-16, 1992 190E 2.3 and 2007 GL450
Location: new york city
Posts: 820
Just ordered a new set of four Pirelli P-6 tires in the original tire size 205/55 15. The fifth tire is still bolted in the tire well mounted on its original wheel: the mounting bolt, the tire and the wheel have never been touched. It will stay for show.
Vehicle: 1986 190E 2.3-16, 1992 190E 2.3 and 2007 GL450
Location: new york city
Posts: 820
Night trials.
Car starts easily now and idles correctly. I was delighted to realize that the motor is little off of factory specs and microswitches and plumbing are in new condition.
Had to correct the placement and fit of the throttle cable retaining grommet.
Can't take the car to Helms Brothers because the right rear tire is cupped: years of storage in a deflated state caused damage that could lead to failure immediately Awaiting new P6's from the Tire Rack in Delaware.
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