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Old 07-03-2009, 10:45 AM   #71 (permalink)
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if not drop it off at my place and i got a nice parts car/project...
Yeah but the fun for me is to conquer this problem not just give it to someone else otherwise I would have given the car to charity a long time ago.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:47 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Road Trip

I'm packing and readying the GL for the trip.

There is no room for tools on this trip because the cap has yet to receive another three bags of travel grip and the trunk area will be packed with snacks. I'm carrying four of my five children (20, 15, 13 and 10) so the GL is jammed.

We'll use drew's tools and work area.

As I said I will do whatever it takes for this thread to close even if it means taking drew's 190 to Helms Brothers for Max to diagnose and repair - on me.

Wheels are rolling in 20 minutes.
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Old 07-03-2009, 10:47 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Yeah but the fun for me is to conquer this problem not just give it to someone else otherwise I would have given the car to charity a long time ago.
true. its not about passing it on theres too much sweat equity invested into this car.
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:23 AM   #74 (permalink)
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That is quite a fleet for NYC, lomtevas. My mother had an apartment at 90th and 3rd in Manhattan for twenty years - cars were a headache there with the alternate side of the street parking, and garage spaces cost as much as renting a house in the CT boonies. I had a VW Rabbit lose a water pump on a visit and had to change it in the street. Worst part of the job was knowing that literally hundreds of thousands of dogs had peed, or worse, where my head was lying against the curb while I was on my back under the car. And knowing I had to get the job done before parking on that side of the street was going to get expensive.

Take some photos of what you guys find - this is pretty interesting and I would love to understand how the lifters or something in the head is causing his stalling issue. I get that same problem, intermittently, in my 1988 300E in colder weather, and I recently had that head off and rebuilt without a real change. Starts right back up, so I tell the wife to either heel and toe as she approaches a stop light or stop sign to keep it from dying, or just start it again. Not sure if the valve train is the same, but I suspect it is as the valves do not need adjusting in the 300E either. The 16 valve 190E is another story on that - gotta take the camshafts out to get to the shims to make adjustments. Pain in the rear, and you have to actually do it alarmingly frequently if you drive it hard (like every 15K miles).

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Old 07-03-2009, 12:18 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Cool! I am probably programmed on the GPS.
Who is Helms Bros?
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:31 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Cool! I am probably programmed on the GPS.
Who is Helms Bros?
Gooooogle is your buddy.

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Old 07-03-2009, 12:52 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Cool! I am probably programmed on the GPS.
Who is Helms Bros?
Here is a hint:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w201...ile-2-3-a.html

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Old 07-03-2009, 12:59 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Must be an honest dealer; we don't have that in this neck of the woods.
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Old 07-03-2009, 09:30 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Saw the vehicle tonight.

Totally solid motor. Fuel distributor looks like the culprit.

Drew said he heard a waterfall sound in the fuel tank. That's likely fuel pressure leaking past defective distributor seals and flooding back to the tank.

Saw a movement in the airflow meter that reminded me of the same problem I had with the 16v last year: poor pressure retained by the fuel distributor that was fixed with a new distributor.
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I believe that is a similar if not identical fuel distributor as the 16 valve, and if so, what a peculiar device. They are not cheap. My son is just finishing a VEMS installation on his 1985 190E 2.3-16, a 5 speed Euro. Once they get a little worn they don't respond well. I have been lucky and a couple doses of Red Line's fuel system cleaner or Sea Foam has worked to get our fleet through CT emissions testing, sometimes with a lot of tweaking and retesting. The VEMS system gets rid of the entire distribution system and the CIS concept - as well as the ignition system.

Anyway, his fuel distributor (as well as the spark distributor) is now serving as a mount for the throttle position sensor and a few other new items. No guarantee it is any better than the one you have, but it is different. He might be persuaded to swap since it is really only a place to bolt stuff onto now (he polished it good so it doesn't look like crap, and it will be some rework for him to make the swap, but he is not an evil kid...).

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