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190E - 180E confusion

If i have a manual 190E 1.8 litre imported from Germany, ...does that mean its actually a 180E and not a 190E?? If not..then what is a 180E?

Furthermore, anyone know what kind of mileage i can get from the 1.8 litre engine with 228000kms? i just bough the car about 2 months ago and will be methodically changing the oil every 5000km brake fluid flush every year, transmission flush every 2 years?? Are these engines up to par with the 2.3's and 2.6's in term of reliability?
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oh.. and which is faster? manual 190E 2.0 or manual 190E 1.8??
..please dont say 2.0
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The 2.0 is "faster".

The same engine came in three flavors I believe...1.8, 2.0 and 2.3 with a corresponding increase of CC.
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Hate to be the bearer of further bad news, but it seems that the 1.8L 190E got WORSE gas mileage than the 2.0L, but quite nice at 26+ MPG average. The 1.8 (1797cc) uses a shorter piston stroke and puts out 108 bhp, compared to the 118 bhp 2.0L.

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so does that mean that any engine mods made for the 2.3 can be installed on the 1.8 without any custom modification??
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what can i do to the engine to get... lets say 125-150bhp
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Unless you have a donor car, complete with the wiring loom and electrics, you'll be better off selling the 1.8L and buying a 2.6L six.
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what can i do to the engine to get... lets say 125-150bhp
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Turbocharge it. Or even better, detail and sell it as a unique Benz and buy a 2.6. Gas mileage wise there will hardly be any difference. Performance wise definitely an improvement.

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Turbocharge it.
For the cost of doing that . . . he could buy a 2.6L and a 2.3-16.

You guys crack me up.
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If i have a manual 190E 1.8 litre imported from Germany, ...does that mean its actually a 180E and not a 190E?? If not..then what is a 180E?
the 180E is the Aussie 190E 1.8.
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