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Old 11-24-2007, 11:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rear defroster malfunction?

Wire Diagram, and Theory of Operation Needed Requested.

Grandsons first car it's been a money pit for him... but he still wants to keep it. he's not a DIYer but willing

anyway his defroster has the flowing problem, presses the rocker switch to the right no light illuminates as it should telling combo relay to activate the heater grid on the glass for a predetermined amount of time.

we removed switch (bonding i guess) on dash center vent outlets and had it tested by his friend witch also has the W201 but different year grandsons is 1993 friends is 1990 switch is good we tryed his but still have no results.

All fuses where replaced by the dealer as well as control unit below the fan control swich, now that hit him hard in the seat of his wallet, hence why we join you now looking get some Needed help.. components of this system consist of switch,..? and thats all we know thus far.

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Old 11-25-2007, 07:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Fuse, switch, combination relay, wiring, heater elements on the rear window.
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search, there are wiring diagrams etc all over the board. search under my post or stefans post. i went through this before and it turns out that i need a new rear window, so i just deal with it.
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search, there are wiring diagrams etc all over the board. search under my post or stefans post. i went through this before and it turns out that i need a new rear window, so i just deal with it.
So your thinking that in short we are wasting time witch is money no matter whos time it is without tracking down what is causing this to not function?



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Fuse, switch, combination relay, wiring, heater elements on the rear window.

thanks for your input.



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If you check the rear window element with an ohmmeter and find that there is an open circuit, find the break and bridge it with some of the 'paint' in any standard rear defroster repair kit. You may get lucky and repair the problem this way if there is a break in the element and you find it. The ohmmeter is a great tool for this, or at least for ruling the window element out of the 'defective part' list.
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If you check the rear window element with an ohmmeter and find that there is an open circuit, find the break and bridge it with some of the 'paint' in any standard rear defroster repair kit. You may get lucky and repair the problem this way if there is a break in the element and you find it. The ohmmeter is a great tool for this, or at least for ruling the window element out of the 'defective part' list.
now thats a start thank you shingleback.

Time Consuming but all test thus far on rear glass grid as they should be.
could the Total resistances of the grid be substituted buy resister to trick the control relay to turn on, no ?
just an idea but seems logical.

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So your thinking that in short we are wasting time witch is money no matter whos time it is without tracking down what is causing this to not function?



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check the resistance of the back window. if you have the time, its worth doing. my window was tinted so i just left it. if u search under my name u will find the post that stefan posted a diagram for the defog system. i dont have time to mess with it since i have school and all. have fun.
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Thank You, Jippi understood about your Schooling very Important. hard work will Always pay off.


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