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a question you won't get answers to are like... how much profit does the dealership make on avg on each car? what is the true invoice of the car... not what we see on edmunds as dealer invoice, but true invoice meaning what the dealership had to pay for the car? why does the dealership charge $300+ for service A when its basically a glorified oil change? that should cost no more than $80
I like this too... and my question was still being ignored...
I guess if someone answers thes will review some kind of money stealing practices...
A ? for AZ..When a car is CPO by MB do they really check the car like they say they do. Because from my experience, I dont think so. On one purchase, the Vanity mirror was cracked & tires were improperly inflated. On my latest purchase, all tires were overinfllated & spare was underinflated & Ml was out of alignment. If they didnt check the obvious & simple things, did they check anything else? Imo, I think the dealership does the least work possible when you buy the car, figuring if something broke you would bring it back to get it fixed under warranty.
When WE certify a vehicle, we spend quite a lot of time and money on the car...but then we are a publically held company accountable to shareholders. Not all dealerships are, in fact the majority aren't I have run into several cases where a competing dealer claims the vehicle is certified, but is not in fact CPO-ed at the factory level. They claim their dealership certified it, and many believe they are purchasing a CPO-ed car when in fact they aren't. Buyer beware.
A true CPO vehicle has to meet specific criteria and physically go through a 155 point inspection. Here at Penske, we replace tires, wheels (if they've been curbed) perform services, alignments, etc...Often to the tune of $2-4,000.00 before the vehicle makes it to the lot. In addition, we'll often CPO a vehicle at the customers request for an extra charge (in cases where the vehicle they really want has not gone through the CPO process.)
I agree that dealers try to do the least amount of work possible, often there isn't any way of knowing a problem will come up. Keep in mind the dealer doesn't drive the vehicle everyday the way an owner will. Obviously, a good dealer will not put a car that needs obvious repair on the lot.
When WE certify a vehicle, we spend quite a lot of time and money on the car...but then we are a publically held company accountable to shareholders. Not all dealerships are, in fact the majority aren't I have run into several cases where a competing dealer claims the vehicle is certified, but is not in fact CPO-ed at the factory level. They claim their dealership certified it, and many believe they are purchasing a CPO-ed car when in fact they aren't. Buyer beware.
A true CPO vehicle has to meet specific criteria and physically go through a 155 point inspection. Here at Penske, we replace tires, wheels (if they've been curbed) perform services, alignments, etc...Often to the tune of $2-4,000.00 before the vehicle makes it to the lot. In addition, we'll often CPO a vehicle at the customers request for an extra charge (in cases where the vehicle they really want has not gone through the CPO process.)
I agree that dealers try to do the least amount of work possible, often there isn't any way of knowing a problem will come up. Keep in mind the dealer doesn't drive the vehicle everyday the way an owner will. Obviously, a good dealer will not put a car that needs obvious repair on the lot.
Hope that helps
i have to disagree with what you posted. cars that become cpo cars are the cream of the crop meaning there isn't much work needed the condition and mechicnals are well taken care of.. a dealership at the most will spend $1000 to fix up a car. the rest of that money is put towards an extended warranty. and those only cost the dealership $1000 on the cost side
so really, it costs the dealership less than $2,000 to make a car a "cpo" yet it commands a higher premium of $5,000 -7,000 over a non cpo car.
and again, i understand a dealership is out to make money and i'm not against that per say. what i'm disappointed about is, the answers you have given so far. what you posted above is common knowledge and if it isn't, a person can search forums like this to get the answers.
what we don't have is posts about actual and true costs. you could have given insight to what it actually costs a dealership to cpo a car and given that, it could help the members understand how much more negotiating space they have if they want a cpo car vs a non cpo car
LOL, sorry got too busy to answer over the weekend. Note that I am still here after hours typing away though. See above.
well you should find something better with your time as imho you aren't adding any value to this community by reposting things most know or can search for themselves.
I've been watching this thread for a while, and now I actually do have a question.
I work with an insurance company and do a lot of traveling and I just like to drive in general. I'm leaning heavily on the ML since I'm a tall individual and I like the high seating position of an SUV with luxury so that I am feeling refreshed after a long drive. I've been weighing the pros and cons of diesel vs premium petrol for the ML SUV. So, my few questions.
1. Would I better off going for a '07-'08 CDI or waiting for the '09 Bluetec?
2. If I go for a Bluetec, how much am I looking at paying to refill the Adblue when it comes time? Is mileage a huge factor in this as far as cost? Ie: My miles racking up faster than someone else and I ned to refill more often than others? Does that make sense? (To compare mileage, even before I began my insurance endeavor, I put 11,000 miles on my used Buick since I got it back in August)
3. With gas prices going up, $3.69 for premium where I am, would I offset the amount of dollars spent on adblue for fillups because of my hectic driving schedule, to go ahead with the premium petrol engine? Like it will cost as much to fill up on premium that it will cost for the fillups of the urea over time because of my increased driving?
1. Would I better off going for a '07-'08 CDI or waiting for the '09 Bluetec?
Yes, if you can find one. The challenge is that the used ones often get picked up for export. A diesel Merc demands nearly double the retail price in other parts of the world. We're seeing particular export interest in the eastern block and Russia. Six calls are made when we find one, and the first exporter to the lot gets it at a slightly inflated price. They're the easiest deals we make.
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2. If I go for a Bluetec, how much am I looking at paying to refill the Adblue when it comes time? Is mileage a huge factor in this as far as cost?
Minimal, I'm looking into that right now, and will edit this message when I have more info.
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3. With gas prices going up, $3.69 for premium where I am, would I offset the amount of dollars spent on adblue for fill-ups because of my hectic driving schedule, to go ahead with the premium petrol engine? Like it will cost as much to fill up on premium that it will cost for the fill-ups of the urea over time because of my increased driving?
Doubtful, the engine will request urea at a rate between 1-3% of diesel consumption. My guess is that the harder you are on the accelerator, the more urea you will consume to break down the NOx in your exhaust. So, if you drive easy, you'll be looking at having it filled at your service interval.
You're an excellent candidate for a diesel with the amount of driving you do. I would try to put you in an E320, however since you'll see real mileage gains to the tune of 34-38 MPG on the highway once the motor breaks in (around 15K mi.) It's also has less roll-over risk, and has our PRE-SAFE technology. Just a thought...but then again, you're in the insurance industry and would know better than I about those kinds of things... Are our SUVs statistically safer than our mid-sized cars? Your input much appreciated.
I have a new ML320CDI and its been great. My last truck was a ML320 gas and it also was great in fact i gave it to my sister when i got this one and she has logged many miles on it since.I would have considered an E class CDI if it was available in 4matic. Any word on if that will be an option on the E class in the future? also what is the latest on the GLK as far as engine options and availability as i am very interested to look at one up close
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I own a 2004 E55 AMG that just turned 19k miles and so far I have had zero problems with the car. My manufacturer's warranty just ran out and I'm contemplating on purchasing an extended warranty. Would this make sense even though the car only has 19k miles and hasn't had any problems yet?
Thanks,
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PS: Has anyone heard of the Transcontinental Warranty Company based in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida? Do they come recommended? I'm being quoted 4,791 for a 6 year extended warranty.
I own a 2004 E55 AMG that just turned 19k miles and so far I have had zero problems with the car. My manufacturer's warranty just ran out and I'm contemplating on purchasing an extended warranty. Would this make sense even though the car only has 19k miles and hasn't had any problems yet?
Thanks,
-Rich
PS: Has anyone heard of the Transcontinental Warranty Company based in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida? Do they come recommended? I'm being quoted 4,791 for a 6 year extended warranty.
19K in 4 years, that's less than 5 miles per year, sounds like a garage queen car like my Porsche. But that certainly helps explain the zero problems.
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