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Old 03-21-2008, 05:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Really, I have a US car with the filler right smack in the middle of the rear deck!!
Lucky you, like an early Vette, Mustang, Malibu, etc.
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Lucky you, like an early Vette, Mustang, Malibu, etc.
Yep, 1966 Vette
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Thanks for the "electronic" clarification. So why do you think German cars' horns were not wired to operate unless the key is in the on position?
Sorry guys, I started it. I think this thread got sidetracked by my gas tank question.
Now, going back to my horn question .....Any comments pls? .
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Sorry guys, I started it. I think this thread got sidetracked by my gas tank question.
Now, going back to my horn question .....Any comments pls? .
This goes back long before the computer controls of vehicle features. My first Benz, in 1974 had a horn that did not work without the ignition turned on. As I recall I have also had a few British cars that did the same thing and they were from the 50's and 60's. I do not know why this is but someone back then must have thought it was a good idea and it continued. I, for one do not object to this at all.
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Maybe the horn thing relates back to when horn buttons occasionally got stuck. At least with the ignition off, a stuck horn button wouldn't result in a dead battery. Just a WAG.
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Maybe the horn thing relates back to when horn buttons occasionally got stuck. At least with the ignition off, a stuck horn button wouldn't result in a dead battery. Just a WAG.
I think this makes sense. Thanks for your replies
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I can see why (maybe) one may want to use the horn with the car off, but I'd still rather have it disabled.

Now, here's a scary one: the ML's homelink buttons should not work when the key is removed. That is not the case with some American cars like the Ford Expedition. Someone could enter one in someone's driveway and open their garage door to their house. I've seen a few cases where this happened.
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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With BMWs, you have to have the key in the car to have the headlamps on. Now that's much worse / more inconvenient than having to have the key in for the horn to work, heh.
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I can see why (maybe) one may want to use the horn with the car off, but I'd still rather have it disabled.

Now, here's a scary one: the ML's homelink buttons should not work when the key is removed. That is not the case with some American cars like the Ford Expedition. Someone could enter one in someone's driveway and open their garage door to their house. I've seen a few cases where this happened.
Good to know. I had trouble getting the homelink to work on my ML, so I just Velcro-ed an opener on the top shelf of the center console out of sight.
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talking about horns, i had my "low tone" horn replaced twice in 12 months and 5000miles. my previous w203 had its horn replaced within a month off the showroom.
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