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Old 05-29-2003, 04:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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BAS/ESP and ETS Lights On/Off: Is it safe to drive?

1999 ML320 with 53k+ miles. Lights come on and off after I re-start the car. My appointment (with Stead Motor@Walnut Creak, CA) is next Monday morning. Thanks.
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Old 05-29-2003, 05:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A few questions

Do the lights stay on?
How long?
Do they come on when you re-start but not start?
Do they come on when you stop without turning the engine off (say a stop sign for example)

If they are constantly on from the time you start the engine and do not turn off, you owner's manual should tell you that it is quite unsafe to drive the car.

If they come on intermittently and for a short period of time, after braking to a stop and taking off, but not at all times, you might have the same problem I've had fixed last week, a stop brake switch gone bad. If your dealer rus a short test, that would be a C1200 error code.

Again, if the lights are on, your owner's manual warns you not to drive, check it out an ask your service advisor.
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Old 06-04-2003, 05:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Problem was Stop Lamp Switch....

Part# 001-545-20-09

Cost is $16.61 and 1.3 hours of labor ($162).
Forgot to call the Claim Advisor (1SourceWarranty.com) before repair was done. Needed to pay this one myself[xx(]
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Old 06-04-2003, 05:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hmmmmnnn...

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Do the lights stay on?
I've recently experienced this "BAS/ESP" light coming on. Mine remained ON for as long as the engine is running.

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How long?
IT remained lit for as long as the engine is running.

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Do they come on when you re-start but not start?
My "BAS/ESP" light went off AFTER I restarted the engine and it remained OFF until the following day (the second occurence).

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Do they come on when you stop without turning the engine off (say a stop sign for example)
NOPE! Not on mine, the BAS/ESP light went on after starting the engine.

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If they come on intermittently and for a short period of time, after braking to a stop and taking off, but not at all times, you might have the same problem I've had fixed last week, a stop brake switch gone bad. If your dealer rus a short test, that would be a <b>C1200 error code</b>.
YEP! Sounds exactly my "BAS/ESP" symptoms. Perhaps it is the same C1200 DTC. Any details on what triggers <i>C1200</i>?

My Service A is coming up really soon so I'll put this down on my list of things to be checked at while at service.
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Old 06-04-2003, 06:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Hmmmmnnn...

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YEP! Sounds exactly my "BAS/ESP" symptoms. Perhaps it is the same C1200 DTC. Any details on what triggers <i>C1200</i>?
C1200 is "Stop Light Switch Open/Shorted/Implausible"
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Old 06-04-2003, 07:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Get it checked, changed the switch (you're definitely under warranty) all is well now!


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Old 06-04-2003, 07:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Glad it was fixed, that switch sure is faulty on a few of our MLs


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Old 06-05-2003, 06:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Anybody knows how difficult is to change the stop lamp switch on the ML? On the hondas it

Anybody knows how difficult is to change the stop lamp switch on the ML? On the hondas it takes 5 minutes to do it. It is just a bolt sensor with a nut in the upper part of the brake pedal and a connector..

It will really be nice to know if it is that straight forward..

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