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MERCEDES BENZ ML- PANASONIC ELECTRONIC INTERFACE CONVERTER

Anyone know where the Panasonic 8 Disc Changer can be purchased ... model#, price ?
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benza, you can try or call Crutcfield, they may carry it.



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MCS Retrofit Question?

I have a 99 ML430 with no Bose or MCS. I can obtain an MCS from an ML built on 8/00 with MCS Part number 163 820 04 86. The CD Changer with the MCS Unit is Ref# CX-CP2810S (non-Fiber optic) while the one currently on my vehicle is CX-CP2610ZF. Therefore, there is a difference already with the non-fiber optic CD Changers. I've been following your posts on your retrofit and was wondering what would you recommend?

1.) Wait until I get get an earlier version of the MCS
2.) Do a Command 2.0 Install
3.) Get a Harmon Kardon TrafficPro
4.) Do nothing

Based on the research so far it seems like the Harmon/Kardon would be the best choice since it matches the OEM appearance, upgrades the stereo, and will cost around $1,600 with CD Changer and navigation.

1999 ML430 (Purchased Pre-Owned in 3/02 with 21K miles now with 42K Miles) MB Extended Warranty until 3/06 or 75K miles, Black Exterior and Sand Interior plus: OEM Daimler Front Window Decal and OEM MB Alarm Decals, OEM Fender Flares, Hardwired Valentine 1 with Concealed Display Unit, Heated Front Seats, Rear Spoiler, 2000 MCS Retrofit (with 03' DVD Navigation), OEM Hitch, OEM Chrome Brush Guard and Stainless Skid Plate, Chrome Oval Tail Pipe Tip, Hella FF50 Fog lights, AMG Front Grill, AMG Chrome Instrument Cluster Rings, OEM Burlwood Steering Wheel, Debadged to ML43 and OEM AMG Rear Right-hand tailgate emblem, OEM Rear Chrome Tailgate Handle, 02' Bi-Xenon's with E-Code Modification, 03' Rear Tail Lights with lighted Side Markers, OEM Front Passenger Side Net, OEM Driver and Passenger side rear cargo nets, OEM Cargo net, 4 MB Quart Speakers, Pioneer Tweeters in Sail Panels, 20% Front Tinted Windows, 5 Spoke AMG 18" Wheels with Michelin Pilot LTX 285/55/18, Porterfield Brake Pads, Avant-garde Burlwood w/Chrome Inlay Shift Knob, 2000+ Front and Rear Door Seals, ML55 Shifter Encasement, Chrome Climate Control Rings, Yakima Ankle Biters, 2 Viper Bike Racks, Thule Wind Deflector, PP Custom Molded Husky Liners Front Seating, OEM Rear Cargo Protector, OEM Car Cover. (3 Time Hawaii Ironman License Plate Frame Finisher of 9:49 hours)

2003 Seal Grey Porsche Turbo X-50 Package known as the Turbo S for 2005 (see pictures at http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=85869&mid=86044&fid=29#M86044) 450HP=0-60MPH in 3.9 seconds. Top Speed 190+mph. See http://www.stevecarter.com/911turbo.htm for more specs) Factory warranty until 50K or 11/06, RUF Aluminum Racing brake, clutch, gas, and footrest pedals, B&M Short Shifter, european side markers, 4 Piston Porsche 13" Brembo Brakes, Aluminum Instrument Bezel Rings, with Navigation (PCM II) and In-Dash (below RPM dial) LCD Computer/Navigation display with lever control feature, Lumbar and Supple Leather front (fully electric with 2 stage heating), and Rear Seats, Memory seat and mirror positions for up to four different drivers, 6 speed transmission, 6 CD Changer, 12 speaker Digital Bose with Audio Pilot, Rain Sensing Wipers, Electronically controlled interior and exterior heated mirrors, Stitched Leather Dash, Suede roof interior with electric sunroof, Aluminum Gauges, Aluminum brake handle with leather, SS Turbo Sill Plates, SS Exhaust Pipes, Leather and Aluminum shifter and shroud, one-touch up/down windows with anti-jam feature, Litronics (Xenon) with heated washer and automatic leveling system and fog lights (front and rear), Porsche Carpets, Lighted door handles, On-Board Computer with automatic temperature feature, Rear wiper, Built in passenger side umbrella, OEM wheel locks, OEM Painted Wheel Valve Caps, OEM air compressor and compact spare tire, tool kit, 18" Hollow Spoke Turbo Wheels with painted Crests, In dash computer screen with steering wheel control lever, Automatic speed control, Telescopic Steering Wheel Adjustment, Interior matched 3 spoke leather steering wheel with painted crest, Heated Rear Windshield and front integrated antenna windshield, automatic (75MPH) and manual rear raisable/retractable rear spoiler, OEM Car Cover. (Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run Licence Plate Frame - Sub 24 hour Finisher).
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Re: MCS Retrofit Question?

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I have a 99 ML430 with no Bose or MCS. I can obtain an MCS from an ML built on 8/00 with MCS Part number 163 820 04 86. The CD Changer with the MCS Unit is Ref# CX-CP2810S (non-Fiber optic) while the one currently on my vehicle is CX-CP2610ZF. Therefore, there is a difference already with the non-fiber optic CD Changers. I've been following your posts on your retrofit and was wondering what would you recommend?

1.) Wait until I get get an earlier version of the MCS
2.) Do a Command 2.0 Install
3.) Get a Harmon Kardon TrafficPro
4.) Do nothing

Based on the research so far it seems like the Harmon/Kardon would be the best choice since it matches the OEM appearance, upgrades the stereo, and will cost around $1,600 with CD Changer and navigation.
My MCS build date 12/99 will be up for sell some time in Mar if you want to wait.

Tony[:)]
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Tony........

could you email me at alex_garcia@mindspring.com with the following info:

1. Condition of the unit?
2. Includes Navigation?
3. Price
4. MCS Part #
5. CD Changer Reference Number

I noticed that you are in Northern CA. I'm in San Jose and you?

my email is alex_garcia@mindspring.com

1999 ML430 (Purchased Pre-Owned in 3/02 with 21K miles now with 42K Miles) MB Extended Warranty until 3/06 or 75K miles, Black Exterior and Sand Interior plus: OEM Daimler Front Window Decal and OEM MB Alarm Decals, OEM Fender Flares, Hardwired Valentine 1 with Concealed Display Unit, Heated Front Seats, Rear Spoiler, 2000 MCS Retrofit (with 03' DVD Navigation), OEM Hitch, OEM Chrome Brush Guard and Stainless Skid Plate, Chrome Oval Tail Pipe Tip, Hella FF50 Fog lights, AMG Front Grill, AMG Chrome Instrument Cluster Rings, OEM Burlwood Steering Wheel, Debadged to ML43 and OEM AMG Rear Right-hand tailgate emblem, OEM Rear Chrome Tailgate Handle, 02' Bi-Xenon's with E-Code Modification, 03' Rear Tail Lights with lighted Side Markers, OEM Front Passenger Side Net, OEM Driver and Passenger side rear cargo nets, OEM Cargo net, 4 MB Quart Speakers, Pioneer Tweeters in Sail Panels, 20% Front Tinted Windows, 5 Spoke AMG 18" Wheels with Michelin Pilot LTX 285/55/18, Porterfield Brake Pads, Avant-garde Burlwood w/Chrome Inlay Shift Knob, 2000+ Front and Rear Door Seals, ML55 Shifter Encasement, Chrome Climate Control Rings, Yakima Ankle Biters, 2 Viper Bike Racks, Thule Wind Deflector, PP Custom Molded Husky Liners Front Seating, OEM Rear Cargo Protector, OEM Car Cover. (3 Time Hawaii Ironman License Plate Frame Finisher of 9:49 hours)

2003 Seal Grey Porsche Turbo X-50 Package known as the Turbo S for 2005 (see pictures at http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=85869&mid=86044&fid=29#M86044) 450HP=0-60MPH in 3.9 seconds. Top Speed 190+mph. See http://www.stevecarter.com/911turbo.htm for more specs) Factory warranty until 50K or 11/06, RUF Aluminum Racing brake, clutch, gas, and footrest pedals, B&M Short Shifter, european side markers, 4 Piston Porsche 13" Brembo Brakes, Aluminum Instrument Bezel Rings, with Navigation (PCM II) and In-Dash (below RPM dial) LCD Computer/Navigation display with lever control feature, Lumbar and Supple Leather front (fully electric with 2 stage heating), and Rear Seats, Memory seat and mirror positions for up to four different drivers, 6 speed transmission, 6 CD Changer, 12 speaker Digital Bose with Audio Pilot, Rain Sensing Wipers, Electronically controlled interior and exterior heated mirrors, Stitched Leather Dash, Suede roof interior with electric sunroof, Aluminum Gauges, Aluminum brake handle with leather, SS Turbo Sill Plates, SS Exhaust Pipes, Leather and Aluminum shifter and shroud, one-touch up/down windows with anti-jam feature, Litronics (Xenon) with heated washer and automatic leveling system and fog lights (front and rear), Porsche Carpets, Lighted door handles, On-Board Computer with automatic temperature feature, Rear wiper, Built in passenger side umbrella, OEM wheel locks, OEM Painted Wheel Valve Caps, OEM air compressor and compact spare tire, tool kit, 18" Hollow Spoke Turbo Wheels with painted Crests, In dash computer screen with steering wheel control lever, Automatic speed control, Telescopic Steering Wheel Adjustment, Interior matched 3 spoke leather steering wheel with painted crest, Heated Rear Windshield and front integrated antenna windshield, automatic (75MPH) and manual rear raisable/retractable rear spoiler, OEM Car Cover. (Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run Licence Plate Frame - Sub 24 hour Finisher).
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Re: Tony........

Quote:
1. Condition of the unit?
2. Includes Navigation?
3. Price
4. MCS Part #
5. CD Changer Reference Number

I noticed that you are in Northern CA. I'm in San Jose and you?
Hi Alex, here the answer:
1. Like new.
2. No.
3. Not set yet but won't be below $500.00
4. I will let you know later.
5. No changer on my so I don't know, you can try with your changer to see it work or not.

I'm near you.

Tony[:)]
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Tony?

Between now and March would you be willing to allow me to try my CD Changer on your ML. I assume the cable is already routed to the back of the vehicle. If that works I will defintely wait and buy it from you.

Let me know.

1999 ML430 (Purchased Pre-Owned in 3/02 with 21K miles now with 42K Miles) MB Extended Warranty until 3/06 or 75K miles, Black Exterior and Sand Interior plus: OEM Daimler Front Window Decal and OEM MB Alarm Decals, OEM Fender Flares, Hardwired Valentine 1 with Concealed Display Unit, Heated Front Seats, Rear Spoiler, 2000 MCS Retrofit (with 03' DVD Navigation), OEM Hitch, OEM Chrome Brush Guard and Stainless Skid Plate, Chrome Oval Tail Pipe Tip, Hella FF50 Fog lights, AMG Front Grill, AMG Chrome Instrument Cluster Rings, OEM Burlwood Steering Wheel, Debadged to ML43 and OEM AMG Rear Right-hand tailgate emblem, OEM Rear Chrome Tailgate Handle, 02' Bi-Xenon's with E-Code Modification, 03' Rear Tail Lights with lighted Side Markers, OEM Front Passenger Side Net, OEM Driver and Passenger side rear cargo nets, OEM Cargo net, 4 MB Quart Speakers, Pioneer Tweeters in Sail Panels, 20% Front Tinted Windows, 5 Spoke AMG 18" Wheels with Michelin Pilot LTX 285/55/18, Porterfield Brake Pads, Avant-garde Burlwood w/Chrome Inlay Shift Knob, 2000+ Front and Rear Door Seals, ML55 Shifter Encasement, Chrome Climate Control Rings, Yakima Ankle Biters, 2 Viper Bike Racks, Thule Wind Deflector, PP Custom Molded Husky Liners Front Seating, OEM Rear Cargo Protector, OEM Car Cover. (3 Time Hawaii Ironman License Plate Frame Finisher of 9:49 hours)

2003 Seal Grey Porsche Turbo X-50 Package known as the Turbo S for 2005 (see pictures at http://www.benzworld.org/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=85869&mid=86044&fid=29#M86044) 450HP=0-60MPH in 3.9 seconds. Top Speed 190+mph. See http://www.stevecarter.com/911turbo.htm for more specs) Factory warranty until 50K or 11/06, RUF Aluminum Racing brake, clutch, gas, and footrest pedals, B&M Short Shifter, european side markers, 4 Piston Porsche 13" Brembo Brakes, Aluminum Instrument Bezel Rings, with Navigation (PCM II) and In-Dash (below RPM dial) LCD Computer/Navigation display with lever control feature, Lumbar and Supple Leather front (fully electric with 2 stage heating), and Rear Seats, Memory seat and mirror positions for up to four different drivers, 6 speed transmission, 6 CD Changer, 12 speaker Digital Bose with Audio Pilot, Rain Sensing Wipers, Electronically controlled interior and exterior heated mirrors, Stitched Leather Dash, Suede roof interior with electric sunroof, Aluminum Gauges, Aluminum brake handle with leather, SS Turbo Sill Plates, SS Exhaust Pipes, Leather and Aluminum shifter and shroud, one-touch up/down windows with anti-jam feature, Litronics (Xenon) with heated washer and automatic leveling system and fog lights (front and rear), Porsche Carpets, Lighted door handles, On-Board Computer with automatic temperature feature, Rear wiper, Built in passenger side umbrella, OEM wheel locks, OEM Painted Wheel Valve Caps, OEM air compressor and compact spare tire, tool kit, 18" Hollow Spoke Turbo Wheels with painted Crests, In dash computer screen with steering wheel control lever, Automatic speed control, Telescopic Steering Wheel Adjustment, Interior matched 3 spoke leather steering wheel with painted crest, Heated Rear Windshield and front integrated antenna windshield, automatic (75MPH) and manual rear raisable/retractable rear spoiler, OEM Car Cover. (Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run Licence Plate Frame - Sub 24 hour Finisher).
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Re: MCS Retrofit Question?

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I have a 99 ML430 with no Bose or MCS. I can obtain an MCS from an ML built on 8/00 with MCS Part number 163 820 04 86. The CD Changer with the MCS Unit is Ref# CX-CP2810S (non-Fiber optic) while the one currently on my vehicle is CX-CP2610ZF. Therefore, there is a difference already with the non-fiber optic CD Changers. I've been following your posts on your retrofit and was wondering what would you recommend?

1.) Wait until I get get an earlier version of the MCS
2.) Do a Command 2.0 Install
3.) Get a Harmon Kardon TrafficPro
4.) Do nothing

Based on the research so far it seems like the Harmon/Kardon would be the best choice since it matches the OEM appearance, upgrades the stereo, and will cost around $1,600 with CD Changer and navigation.

Why don't you take that MCS and add a fibre optic changer and cable harness? It seems all the MCS have fibre optic connectors, for addition of a phone system. Because the fibre optic connectors are there, the CD changer can be plugged in, and it seems to work in the three cases I tried.

Since you're in San Jose, I would be more than happy to let you try and plug in a fibre optic changer to your MCS to verify operation before you go down this path.

If that works, you can find the changers relatively inexpensively if you keep your eyes open!

This would seem to make the compatibility game a lot easier, too.

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Between now and March would you be willing to allow me to try my CD Changer on your ML. I assume the cable is already routed to the back of the vehicle. If that works I will defintely wait and buy it from you.

Let me know.
Alex, sorry for the delay I'm too busy in the weekend.

I will email you the time and place,

Tony[:)]
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