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P1400 Confusion

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99 ML320 showed various trouble codes a year ago, I changed plugs, pulled the EGR tube and unclogged it. When I pulled the EGR tube on the back of the engine, I checked to see if the solenoid on the EGR was free. I pushed it and it clicked and moved, so I thought maybe it had frozen and maybe pushing it freed it up. It ran fine for about a month, then it started acting up and gave codes for MAF sensor, O2 sensors, random misfire (cylinders 1 & 3). It sat for a while because I didn't have time/money to mess with it, and the battery went kaput on me as well (wouldn't hold a charge, even after a long trickle charge etc.)

About a month ago I changed the MAF sensor and 2 coil packs. Yesterday I gave it a new battery and limped it to Autozone to check the codes and came back with a single P1400 code, which referenced the MAP sensor (according to Chrysler OBDII, they didn't have Mercedes readouts.) I checked my hoses and found some bad ones, which I replaced but it didn't seem to matter. I haven't done a vacuum vs voltage test on the MAP, but was looking for specs here and I referenced the forums and keep seeing the EGR Changeover Valve Switch mentioned with the P1400 code.

Problem is, depending on where I look, there seem to be 2 of them. One is mounted on the EGR Valve itself, and the other is mounted on the same bracket with the MAP sensor on the front of the engine. When I look up the part online, all I see is the sensor that mounts to the EGR Valve, and the one on the front of the engine looks different. Which one do I change, the MAP or EGR Changeover(s)? Or do I change both (or all 3)? Am I looking at updated parts differences between the Changeover valves because they look different? I'm getting tired of throwing parts at the dang thing, but I've spent much less money replacing things myself than having the shop do it.
 
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First 2 pics are EGR Changeover valves according to AutohausAZ.com. It's located on the back of the engine.

The second two are the "EGR Switchover Valve" located at the front of the engine... (it's the cylindrical canister on the left in the pic that shows the MAP sensor too.)

Which of these is the problem for a P1400 code?
 

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Ok, so I tried replacing the valve switch/crossover/changeover/solenoid that was mounted to the EGR valve itself. New part doesn't look like the old one. If you look at the pics above, what I got was the one in the upper left, which looks nothing like the one mounted to the EGR. And it did absolutely nothing to fix the problem or even clear the code (battery disconnected to clear, but it came right back.) I figure the difference in form is that there is a backflow valve between the manifold and the piece I'm intending to replace... am I missing something?


I'm about 50 seconds from dropping a molotov cocktail in the driver's seat and walking away from Mercedes as a brand altogether.
 
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I'm about 50 seconds from dropping a molotov cocktail in the driver's seat and walking away from Mercedes as a brand altogether.
EVERY MERCEDES owner / DIY Mechanic has said this, and probably more than once !

Then your Fix goes well, you hit the road, that total command of the road your Benz provides soothes you & all the frustration melts away...and you remember the Molotov with fuse lit is STILL rolling around in the back...pull over & snuff it out...whew that was close !

LOL - David in Texas
 
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Ok, so I went back in, pulled the EGR Valve, cleaned it, cleaned the tube again, pulled the throttle body to clean it, and in the process noticed that there are a few damaged hoses going to the throttle body. One of the broken hoses/assemblies is a "coupling" of sorts that "compresses" down onto the TB and the intake manifold. The part that goes on the TB has an inner stem that has broken off inside the TB. Should I even worry about the broken coupling as long as it still seals over the intake ports and the hoses that go into it are intact? I'm grasping at straws here.
 
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Here's a pic of the piece I'm talking about. The little stem thing goes in the throttle body itself with the tapered end sitting just behind the butterfly valve.

I'm going to mercedes tomorrow to see if I can even replace this part. None of the online parts shops seem to carry it, although I've found lots of other things to attach to the truck... I'm also going to return the valve I got from autohausaz.com and just buy the whole dang EGR assembly. That way I know I've got the right part.

Maybe...
 

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#19 ·
Hope that was good for a laugh or two. I'm saying this as I embark upon my first Benz Power Steering Pump R & R. We shall keep a Molotov nearby, just in case !

But seriously I also did an EGR clean & Vac hose replace a year ago, similar to yours.

Ahead of time, I just ordered all the VAC hoses & that little 'Vac Junction Tee' plastic piece you found broken. Pretty crucial stuff !

I wish I had just put a new EGR on. I did clean it thoroughly - the pintle had so crusted up that the Transducer would try to move but couldn't, so it set a code.

So after cleaning it all up & restoring function, I think it STILL needs a new one, here's why:

The little cavity that is supposed to seal off (can't recall if its upon activation or as a resting default position) really doesn't. Yes the Pintle moves trying to do so, but there is so much wear on the piston thingy (technical term) that the seal really doesn't occur. I could see that much by testing it's ability (failure) to hold liquid solvent.

Ok, to my question, if anyone can say: So my 'works electrically, but NOT as a sealed Vacuum EGR valve' unit, could that be the cause of my excessive exhaust smoke that is SOMETIMES coming from the exhaust ?

It is intermittent - not always there, seemingly not with cold engine, only when fully hot and when idling for a decently long period. Then upon revving up & taking off, pretty distinct cloud of darkish exahust is seen behind me.

Oil usage is nil & mpg is pretty good about the same as always.

So, I'm leaning towards ordering the Pierburg new EGR Valve - $95 from FCP Euro, last I knew.

Appreciate any input on this question !

David in Texas