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Old 05-11-2008, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ml320 2002 drives for 1 hour then stops!,help

i have a 2002 ml320 6 cilinder and it start some wierd staff to do,,
it starts then i go for 45,1,or 1.5 hr driving and then it stops! the water tank is okay,,oil ok,fuses ok,gas the premium in it ,, everything is okay,,it drive the temp stays okay,, but after some time it just stops ,the motor goes dead,,
then if i leaved for 1 hr,,then it starts again ,,and it does the same thing all over again in 6 years it never did this before,,,

i know i have the check engine light on also,,i have a digital engine check code,,and when i put the think is tell me that the code is::::E::: !,,but no info on that...
i have no clue what is going on!,,i may have to go to a place to rent the obd II scanner that checks more staff like emision sensors and more,,maybe i can find the problem,,
i even take the battery cablers out to reset the computer and after some time it comeback,,,
any help i appreciate!
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What is a "digital engine check code"?

Take it to your local AutoZone or Pepboys, they will read the codes for free (using a OBD-II code reader). Post those codes on this board, others can help you with that info.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i have a 2002 ml320 6 cilinder and it start some wierd staff to do,,
it starts then i go for 45,1,or 1.5 hr driving and then it stops! the water tank is okay,,oil ok,fuses ok,gas the premium in it ,, everything is okay,,it drive the temp stays okay,, but after some time it just stops ,the motor goes dead,,
then if i leaved for 1 hr,,then it starts again ,,and it does the same thing all over again in 6 years it never did this before,,,

i know i have the check engine light on also,,i have a digital engine check code,,and when i put the think is tell me that the code is::::E::: !,,but no info on that...
i have no clue what is going on!,,i may have to go to a place to rent the obd II scanner that checks more staff like emision sensors and more,,maybe i can find the problem,,
i even take the battery cablers out to reset the computer and after some time it comeback,,,
any help i appreciate!

Probaby a failing CPS. Common problem that leaves no codes. My 2 cents.
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Classic symptom of a failed CPS. Quit when hot then will restart when it cools down. Your code for the CEL is most likely another problem that is not related to the CPS as the CPS does not throw a code.
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks for replying,

what is "cps" or ""cel""

i check with a digital check engine light that i have few times and i get the ""E"" code
but tomrrow i will go to autozone to get the real obd 2 scanner to see because that proably will read more info,,them my junk that i have

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Old 05-11-2008, 07:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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most likely the crank position sensor. one member here had the same problem and i think it was that. for me, i changed it because my car would not start cause of the "hot engine." changed it and all is good.
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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after the car stops,,i turn the key and the engine turns but does not start,,like i dont have gas in it,,
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my problem was that i would drive the car for a while, i would come back and i could crank it all i want it just would not start. the only for me to start it was to let the car cool down. this is a definite CPS sensor problem. you can get them for like $50. i'm sure this is the problem to your car.

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Old 05-11-2008, 08:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i called autozone and they said ,,not avaible" everybody else is closed,,
i will call same other places towmmorow..

and a other thing ,,my wife tell me that by mistake she put the lowest grade fuel,,87 i gues,,gi,,
so then after the car died i was and fill the thing with premium... maybe this is other problem,,but i alraidy drive the thing about 25 miles like that ,,i thing the old 87 gas is gone by now?!,,

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Old 05-12-2008, 01:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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What I think this member is trying to say is that he sees START ERROR in the odometer window, and if that is the case he has a DAS problem.

But maybe I can shed some light on the fact that a Crank Position Sensor will throw a code, but will not illuminate the CEL. Codes P0335, 36, 37, 38 & 39 are all reserved for the crank sensor. Members have been conditioned to believe that if the CEL does not illuminate then there are no codes stored, and that is not the case. The CEL has been programmed to illuminate when any fault exists which will impact the environment (emissions). This is why a scanner should be hooked up to the vehicle whenever there is a driveability problem, so hidden, or non illuminating codes, can be read.
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