» Site Navigation
» Other Sites
Links

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Tire Upgrade Garage

Sponsors

Sponsors


Go Back   Benzworld.org - Mercedes Benz Discussion Forum > Mercedes-Benz Vans/Trucks/SUV/Others > W163 M-Class
Register Home Forum Photo Gallery Active Topics Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


       
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-06-2008, 01:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
wacsr7431
BenzWorld Newbie
 
wacsr7431's Avatar
 
Date registered: May 2008
Vehicle: 2002 ML320
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4
Send a message via Skype™ to wacsr7431
Start Error / Key Problem

Hey folks, Let me start by saying "Another one bites the dusk". My 02 ml320 fail to start yesterday. I've Never heard of, or have experience this problem before. After joining this site I read just about everything i could find on this start error/key Problem. I Went back up to the car where it failed (I was hopeing to get it started so I could get it home) removed the battery and tried to start it again. Just like the forum said, 3 tries and it was over. I tried both keys to no avail.Only other option was to call the tow truck. They picked it up today headed to the shop. Called the Benz dealer, they said very proudly.."Sure, bring it in, we can surley fix it!"(I could hear the cash register in the back ground, chig,chig) I called my Certified Benz import shop that has been doing all the work for the last 3 years. He said" Naw, never have heard of that before, but you know we will take care of you, bring it in" Man, I tell you.. It's not looking good either way. let me say, I've only had one problem with the small SUV since I've had it(back seat got suck in the down position) Cost me about $300 to get it up and new cable. So I guess I am due. I will let you folks know my out come.....Oh, I took it to my Import guys.
wacsr7431 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 05-06-2008, 01:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
43sqd
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Aug 2006
Vehicle: 02 ML320
Location: Bronx, New York
Posts: 1,335
There are a number of things that could cause a no start, but one suggestion is that you check the odometer window on the instrument cluster and if it says START ERROR in place of the mileage, then no repair shop can fix the problem. It is the DAS (Drive Authorization System) which can only be purchased and coded by a M/B dealer. Before your mechanic starts replacing parts to try and get the truck running, it would be financially beneficial to you both, if you find this out as soon as possible.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf Start Error.pdf (547.5 KB, 37 views)
43sqd is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 01:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
wacsr7431
BenzWorld Newbie
 
wacsr7431's Avatar
 
Date registered: May 2008
Vehicle: 2002 ML320
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4
Send a message via Skype™ to wacsr7431
It does say start error in the mileage spot. I printed off the pdf you have attached and sent it to them with the car....thanks..
wacsr7431 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 01:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
cmitch
Premium Member
 
cmitch's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2005
Vehicle: '99 ML 430, 2002 ML320
Location: Ala-Tenn
Posts: 5,432
Premium Member
Drive Authorization System (DAS). It's not cheap. Luckily, the DAS is separated from the AAM in 2001. If it were a pre 2001 model, you'd been out some much bigger bucks. I think this repair is between $700 to $900.
Sorry, 43sqd. I was doing a DAS search while you posted your response.
__________________
Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.- Mark Twain
cmitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 01:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
AC_ML
BenzWorld Extremist
 
AC_ML's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: Black 2005 ML 500
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,117
Start Error / Key Problem

Last year I had the problem 43sqd is talking about.. Make sure you take all your keys because they will need to be re-programmed..

"Start Error" on Instrument Cluster Mileage Display when Cranking

AC
__________________
2005 ML 500
Black, 18" AMG Wheels, 285/60R18 Falken Ziex ST/Z + Bi-Xenons(+ Drew's e-code mod), Yakima roof bars. Former vehicle 2001 ML 320 with 108K miles, when traded, and a large repair/defect history.
AC_ML is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 01:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
cmitch
Premium Member
 
cmitch's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2005
Vehicle: '99 ML 430, 2002 ML320
Location: Ala-Tenn
Posts: 5,432
Premium Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by AC_ML View Post
Last year I had the problem 43sqd is talking about.. Make sure you take all your keys because they will need to be re-programmed..

"Start Error" on Instrument Cluster Mileage Display when Cranking

AC
I have not had my error since last October. My fingers are still crossed.
cmitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 01:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
43sqd
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Aug 2006
Vehicle: 02 ML320
Location: Bronx, New York
Posts: 1,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacsr7431 View Post
It does say start error in the mileage spot. I printed off the pdf you have attached and sent it to them with the car....thanks..
Who did you send the truck to?
43sqd is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 01:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
43sqd
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Aug 2006
Vehicle: 02 ML320
Location: Bronx, New York
Posts: 1,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmitch View Post
Drive Authorization System (DAS). It's not cheap. Luckily, the DAS is separated from the AAM in 2001. If it were a pre 2001 model, you'd been out some much bigger bucks. I think this repair is between $700 to $900.
Sorry, 43sqd. I was doing a DAS search while you posted your response.
You know Mitch, these problems are popping up quite often, and I really feel for these guys who have the first version, which only seems to be a money maker for Mercedes. I still can't understand why they couldn't just issue a recall and end this nightmare. I guess they have very large checkbooks and can out wait anyone in court. That's why it is very hard fighting them.
43sqd is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2008, 02:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
cmitch
Premium Member
 
cmitch's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2005
Vehicle: '99 ML 430, 2002 ML320
Location: Ala-Tenn
Posts: 5,432
Premium Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by 43sqd View Post
You know Mitch, these problems are popping up quite often, and I really feel for these guys who have the first version, which only seems to be a money maker for Mercedes. I still can't understand why they couldn't just issue a recall and end this nightmare. I guess they have very large checkbooks and can out wait anyone in court. That's why it is very hard fighting them.
I expect to hear even more as these trucks get older. I wonder if reporting this start fault to the NHTSA as a safety issue would do any good? A non-starting vehicle is potentially life threatening, especially if it happens after hours in a less than nice neighborhood.
cmitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2008, 11:49 AM   #10 (permalink)
mlfun
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,814
Quote:
Originally Posted by 43sqd View Post
You know Mitch, these problems are popping up quite often, and I really feel for these guys who have the first version, which only seems to be a money maker for Mercedes. I still can't understand why they couldn't just issue a recall and end this nightmare. I guess they have very large checkbooks and can out wait anyone in court. That's why it is very hard fighting them.
The bulletin you posted covered all ML's 2000 - 2005.

What is circuit 15 ?

Last edited by mlfun : 05-08-2008 at 11:53 AM.
mlfun is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Benzworld.org - Mercedes Benz Discussion Forum > Mercedes-Benz Vans/Trucks/SUV/Others > W163 M-Class





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Topic Author Forum Replies Last Post
Start error Mk85 General Mercedes-Benz 2 11-16-2007 05:25 AM
start error bonta V-Class 22 10-16-2007 03:35 PM
Start Error !!!! timer W168 A-Class 2 12-28-2006 01:53 PM
key fob error help! berk R170 SLK Class 4 12-12-2006 05:31 PM
Key Problem will not start C230k melttemp W203 C-Class 4 12-01-2006 02:29 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:08 AM.



Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6