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Old 12-06-2007, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HELP REPLACING POWER STEERING PUMP

I searched, but couldn't find a write-up on how to change the pump. Any help?
In addition, should a get new or rebuilt, any brand, new design?
I don't feel like paying $600 for 2-3 hours worth of labor.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why is it that you want to replace the P/S pump?
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Because the dealer told me I have to, and they want $1,200 which I'm not paying.
Why you ask? It's not the seal, or the o-ring or the hose or clamp, according to them. I will replace the reservoir o-ring anyways.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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For the part...carsteering.com $385 new

Call the guys at carsteering.com at (800) 399-7845.

They show the OE pump new at $385, and maybe by calling them you might get UPS surface free to Las vegas..they are good guys if you call..

New, njot rebuilt, no core return, then try eBaying your old pump, soemone might buy to rebuild or use as a core retrun...at leat some cash back in your pocket....

2003*Mercedes Benz*ML500*Steering Pump from Carsteering

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Old 12-07-2007, 02:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Because the dealer told me I have to, and they want $1,200 which I'm not paying.
Why you ask? It's not the seal, or the o-ring or the hose or clamp, according to them. I will replace the reservoir o-ring anyways.
I asked only to find out who determined the need for a new pump. Try following the instructions in this TSB from M/B. Without the engine running, turn the key to positon #2 and turn the steering wheel from stop to stop at least 30 times in an attempt to purge air from the system. It would be much easier if the front wheels could be lifted off the ground. I don't know if it will work, since the truck has been driven already, but it's worth a try.
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Because the dealer told me I have to, and they want $1,200 which I'm not paying.
Why you ask? It's not the seal, or the o-ring or the hose or clamp, according to them. I will replace the reservoir o-ring anyways.
they are out to gauge everyone, they don't want to do an o ring or reservoir and then later tell you it's the steering pump. How much fluid are you losing in a month? If it's less than a reservoir full it's probably not the steering pump.

THey told me the same thing last year, guess what, I still use the same pump, i just top it off every 3 months. Don't believe what they say because they assume since you take it there, that you would just pay for it if they told you it needs to be replaced. If you found out they were lying, they would just tell you that it is safer to replace because it was leaking, and they saved you a buck by taking it to them twice if the replaced o-ring and clamps, etc weren't fixed.

I also know because i have a friend the dealer said his rack was shot, and he took it to another mechanic and they just connected the hose to the power steering and it went fine.
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Because the dealer told me I have to, and they want $1,200 which I'm not paying.
Why you ask? It's not the seal, or the o-ring or the hose or clamp, according to them. I will replace the reservoir o-ring anyways.
must i also point out that i frequently see the ML steering pumps on ebay because it is also my thought that some people that think they need to replace them really don't and they are buying them realizing it was only the reservoir needing replacement, then causing them to sell it back online for cheaper than they paid.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If you haven't already figured it out - dealers are rip off artists. My good friend was a MB tech and was paid commission on repair orders. Thats why every time you take it in for one thing, there a 5 other things 'wrong'. In regard to the PS pump. A) I highly doubt it is the pump - probably a hose (check return hose from Rad to rack - directly underneath pump) or a simple O ring (reservoir). B) if it is the pump, any auto store will have one from $185-300 and it is a very easy fix if you don't mind getting a little dirty. Keep fluid in until you grow the balls - and don't forget to fight the man. These are great vehicles, just finicky.
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Call the guys at carsteering.com at (800) 399-7845.

They show the OE pump new at $385, and maybe by calling them you might get UPS surface free to Las vegas..they are good guys if you call..

New, njot rebuilt, no core return, then try eBaying your old pump, soemone might buy to rebuild or use as a core retrun...at leat some cash back in your pocket....

2003 Mercedes Benz ML500 Steering Pump from Carsteering

I have used these guys several times on my other MB's, and they have always been straight..
Sometimes, it pays to look around a little. We offer brand new OEM pumps for $345.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I searched, but couldn't find a write-up on how to change the pump. Any help?
In addition, should a get new or rebuilt, any brand, new design?
I don't feel like paying $600 for 2-3 hours worth of labor.
I hope it is not to late for you. I had my power steering go out and the resevoir would not hold fluid. After performing on-line research I found pumps for $350 to $600. A call to the local Advanced Auto Parts store found a rebuilt unit in stock for $198 plus a $50 core charge. Once I got it home I found an on-line service manual for about $25 at alldatadiy.com. $25 buys a one year subscription. It did provide the sequence of events to remove the pump. However it does not inform you of certain basic items, such as how to remove the belt or that the idler tension pully must be removed to access one of the pumps torx bolts. It does not tell you that the idler tension pulley has a tamper proof torx head fitting to remove the belt. Leave it to MB to not want to allow you to change your own belt. Discouraged after a trip to find a tamper proof T50 torx bit, I went ahead and removed the resevoir. Remove the engine top cover and one torx bolt (bottom left corner of resevoir), one hose clamp (return line on rear of resevoir) and one clip (resevoir to pump inlet, use thin wide blade screwdriver, place in notch and twist out) and the resevoir slides right out (about 5 to 10 minutes). Have a rag handy for residual fluid. There is an o-ring where the resevoir feeds the pump. This o-ring does not come with the pump. MB sells it over the counter for $2.50 (the next day of course). After a good cleaning and inspection of the resevoir, hose and the pump housing I tried the resevoir to pump o-ring first. Lube the new o-ring in power steering fluid (Dexron III, ATF), slide it on the pumps inlet port, insert the resevoir into its guides and reinstall the torx bolt secring the resevoir to the engine block. This will also push the resevoir in far enough to reinsert the clip that holds the resevoir to the pump. Insert the clip next. I had cleaned all the surfaces and wirebrushed the clip so it would go in easier. Due to the low pressure return line inlet placement it can be tricky to insert the clip. I used a 90 degree needle nose pliers to gain leverage and it slid in the first attempt. Reattach the low pressure hose and your ready to fill the resevoir. Per MB fill the resevoir almost to the top and turn the engine on for about 5 seconds and turn it off, check the fluid level. It should be low. Perform this process 2 or 3 times (I did it 3) before the level stabilized. I filled the level to the top line of the dip stick and started the motor looking for leaks. After a successful leak test I took it on a test drive. MB says to turn the wheel from lock to lock 30 times to push the air out of the system. Fluid may look frothy due to air coming up, mine did. Afterwards recheck your level and you should be good. If your like me return the unused pump. Total repair was $2.50 for the o-ring, $25 for the manual and $5 for fluid. MB uses Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) Dexron III for the power steering fluid.
One other thing to check, not found in the manual, the low pressure line runs through a cooler in the radiator. Trace the low pressure line from the resevoir to the radiator and check these connections. My bottom connection had become loose and was abount to come off. MB had a recall on the original hose clamps used at the factory. They may need to be replaced.

Hope this helps others....Good Luck and don't ask MB for advice...They wanted $1,200!!
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