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Old 11-14-2006, 03:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Canadian ML Daytime Running Lights Conversion

On US spec ML's, relay #k22 (blue colored relay), is not truly a relay. It is just a jumper. I know because I opened it. On the relay layout, an asterisk is is next to the description that says,"Norway, Sweden and Canada".

What would happen if I replaced this with a true relay? Also, do you guys have an 'eye' on the dashboard or rearview mirror for your ML so the vehicle can determine if it is already dark so the headlight can turn on? Is the headlamp switch any different on your Canadian models?
What do I need to convert my ML to have Daytime Running Lights? Help?

Besides an insurance discount, I am all for Daytime Lights; for safety.

UPDATE (11/21/2006):

I went to my Stealership recently and tried them to activate the DTRL's: The service advisor said they could not do it 'Canadian' because it will change my emissions to Canadian Specs also...I thought BS! I sneaked over to the service bay and tried to talk to the Technician. He was cool and changed me over Canadian headlights through the Star Diagnosis. I came home and installed relays in k5, k9, k13 AND k22. I inserted the key in the ignition to start the car up. 2 seconds later the DTRL's are ON!!! I will call my agent tomorrow and get me my discount.

By the way, I got the 4 small relays and the 1 big relay from a junkyard out of a '97 Mitsubishi Galant. I paid a total of $5.00 for them instead of $27.50 each at the Stealership.

The Tech is now a drinking buddy and he showed me how to disable the ETC on some of the MB vehicles. Let me know if you want me to correctly show you how.

Now that I have an insider, maybe I can upgrade to a KLEEMAN sytem for my ML using his employee discount...
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I haven't tested it, but there is sensor on the top of the dash in front of the driver. I would bet that if I covered it in the day, my lights would come on.

Do you have a canadian spec. ML?

So you think that if you replaced the short with a relay, you would have a low beam relay DTRL? I'm not sure what that would do for you, but ok... It seems that what you want to do is short that sensor.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My headlights ('00 ML430) are on all the time except whilst in PARK. There may be a daylight sensor but it doesn't control the headlights. Perhaps the tail lights but I don't think so. The headlight twist switch on the colomn is there to allow me to use high beams and fog lights. This leads me to one of my pet peeves. The low/bright settings on the MCS are controlled by the state of the headlights as opposed to the switch position. So in Canada the MCS defaults to the dim mode every time (since the lights are always on).
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No, I don't have a Canadial spec ML. Curiosity is getting the best of me . I just wonder what the differences are between US and Canadian specs when it come to this relay. Also, the difference in the whole DTRL system. I hope that we get a good response. This is another $10.00 off my monthly insurance...
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It may be that the lights are on in a low output mode in daylight. I had a Pathfinder that turned the high beams on in a series connection when the headlight switch was in the off position and the shifter in any position but park. I would have expected that in 6.5 years of driving I'd have seen the lights go from day to night mode if it worked that way on the ML but I could be wrong.
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The dealer might have to activate it in the AAM as well.
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As I recall the W163 did not have "auto" headlights. The sensor on the dash in front of the driver is the sun sensor for the HVAC system. The W164 does have the "auto" headlights and the auto position on the switch.
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It may be that the lights are on in a low output mode in daylight. I had a Pathfinder that turned the high beams on in a series connection when the headlight switch was in the off position and the shifter in any position but park. I would have expected that in 6.5 years of driving I'd have seen the lights go from day to night mode if it worked that way on the ML but I could be wrong.
Bi-xenon DRLs are on at full intensity. Halogens are on at half-intensity. According to the manual.
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As I recall the W163 did not have "auto" headlights. The sensor on the dash in front of the driver is the sun sensor for the HVAC system. The W164 does have the "auto" headlights and the auto position on the switch.
W163's do have Auto on/off headlights.


I'm still curious as to where the sensor is.
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