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Old 03-06-2004, 08:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ML55 AMG Instrument Cluster

I'm booked on Wednesdat (in 3 days) at the dealer to change my Instrument Cluster to the AMG one.
I was talking to the SA today and he told me that this is the first time for them to do this and he can't guarantee that it will work, also he called a technician and the technician told him that there might be an issue of "ratio conversion" since the AMG cars have different wheels than the ML500, and other issues because, according to him, the ML500 is not the same car as the ML55 AMG.
Can this be true? Is there any possibility that the AMG Instrument Cluster won't work in my car? I thought from a number of posts that I read here that this should be a straight forward work, isn't it? [?] Any comments, please!
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Old 03-06-2004, 04:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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RE: ML55 AMG Instrument Cluster

Of course it *can* work, but there's no guarantee that your dealer can make it work. As to the wheel sizes, I doubt that they've regeared it. The ML320 and ML500 have different wheel sizes but I'm guessing that they have the same part number for the cluster. Besides, if you ever drive your truck you start to wear down the tires and the speedometer would be out of true from original. Worst case your speedometer and odometer will be off by a small amount - just as if you've put on aftermarket rims or a non-recommended tire size.
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Old 03-06-2004, 06:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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RE: ML55 AMG Instrument Cluster

The AMG 18" wheels with the 285 R50 18s are the same diameter as the the stock 17" wheels so there is no change in tire diameter or circumference - at least no enough to matter.
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Old 03-10-2004, 12:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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RE: ML55 AMG Instrument Cluster

I've just came back from the dealer. The AMG instrument cluster they ordered A163 540 2411 turned out to be in miles (not km). I got another number from another post in this forum A163 540 0811 but they checked it and it's been replaced by A163 540 7411 but it is also miles (not km). After some invistigation they found another number A163 540 8011, where it says in the ordering system "for Canada, km/h) but the salesman says that he is still not sure if it's an AMG, or if it will work in my car. Anybody has a correct part number for the AMG instrument Cluster with km/h and km milage? What can be the other country dependent parameters that can affect the IC not to work in my car? [?]
When they connected the miles instrument cluster to my car(before noticing it was in miles), without any programming, the BAS/ESP indicater was on, will this disappear after the instrument cluster is synchronized with the car?
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RE: ML55 AMG Instrument Cluster

Hey "E".....The cluster will work,in my situation, l purchased one off of E-bay, and it was an American cluster in miles, and l live in Canada, where KM's are used..they were not able to convert the miles on the cluster(6800 miles) to the original cluster (110,000 KM's).....they noted the mileage and will add the difference when l trade in the vehicle, which could be years from now.......As well, my ML is a 99, and the newer ML's, such as yours are "Touch Shift" transmission's, and they indicate the transmission indicator, (P,D,R,1,2,3...)as you can see in the picture, where the little box to the left of the time is empty....my ML is not able to show this...my SA said, it is something to do with the software....too bad, l really wanted that feature....Oh well, that's what you get with a 99......next, are the "Turn signal mirrors"...being painted as l speak......
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Old 03-11-2004, 02:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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RE: ML55 AMG Instrument Cluster

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Hey "E".....The cluster will work,in my situation, l purchased one off of E-bay, and it was an American cluster in miles, and l live in Canada, where KM's are used..they were not able to convert the miles on the cluster(6800 miles) to the original cluster (110,000 KM's).....they noted the mileage and will add the difference when l trade in the vehicle, which could be years from now.......As well, my ML is a 99, and the newer ML's, such as yours are "Touch Shift" transmission's, and they indicate the transmission indicator, (P,D,R,1,2,3...)as you can see in the picture, where the little box to the left of the time is empty....my ML is not able to show this...my SA said, it is something to do with the software....too bad, l really wanted that feature....Oh well, that's what you get with a 99......next, are the "Turn signal mirrors"...being painted as l speak......
Thanks "C", I really hope that it will work in my car, my questions to you are:
1. Why did the ESP/BAS indicater was on when they connected the american IC in my car? Do you think this will dissappear after the correct IC parameters are programmed?
2. Did you need to synchronize the IC with your odometer? how is that done?
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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RE: ML55 AMG Instrument Cluster

I managed to get the AMG Instrument Cluster. My MB dealer was very helpful, they ordered the IC for an AMG car, and installed it in my car. It took less than half an hour to install and version code. It is really very nice, much difference between this IC and the original one.
The correct part number for the IC (km not miles) is 163 540 7811
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