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View Poll Results: Has the W140 fully depreciated and is now headed towards classi car status?
Yes they have. 18 38.30%
No they have not. 18 38.30%
I have no idea but have a deep emotional need to respond to this poll. 11 23.40%
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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When Mercedes throws Terminator's W140 S600 in the MB Museum in Stuttgart, I highly doubt that the values would stay south when the supply of W140's depletes.

You can see 560sel's from 1990 going for more than most S420's from 1995. But condition and service history plays a huge roll. Not all S-classes are the same after 10+ years of ownership. So the variance in cost is relative and subjective to condition 1st, wear 2nd, and rarity 3rd.

A W140 at 20 years of age will probably be worth more than a W220 at 20 years simply because of the rarity (less W140's were produced by the factory).

Even an AMG W211 will hold it's value over the same year E-class non-AMG. Simply because of the low supply.

Granted, Arnold's S600 is rare. But over time, rust, accidents, disrepair, etc will take it's toll on all S-classes from all years. The question of value comes down to condition.

Would I buy a mint 1999 S600 or a mint 1990 560SEL? That's hard to say. How many of each still exist?

There are only 30 R63 AMG's from 2007 in existence in the US. The R-class is, uh, unique. But years from now, very, very rare indeed.
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Old 03-30-2009, 06:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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what would be cool is if parts and service depreciate at the same rate the car does...
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:08 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I've notice the W140 values is going downhill nowadays. But the the 600series= R129 SL, C140 and 600SEL- over here- the prices still above the 60k range= USD=40k.

only the 320, 280 S series- they are valued around 20-30 k.
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:03 AM   #24 (permalink)
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The value of the W140 will depreciate all the way to zero. It may be another 20 years before the W140 is viewed as a classic.
Public perception is that Mercedes vehicle are expensive cars to buy and maintain. Most people are too scared to contemplate owning one new or worse, used. Therefore the market for 2nd hand large Mercedes cars is small compared to your 'regular' vehicle.

I agree, it's a shame as the W140 is a well engineered and built car - the Maybach Mercedes.

Mercedes dilemma: they want the cars to be technologically advanced to differentiate their vehicles from the others on the market, but the more technologically advanced they become, the more expensive they are to maintain, so their resale value plummets.

Personally I think Mercedes should simplify, e.g. offer fewer models and options, e.g only offer the S class in V8 and V12.

I miss the V12, but don't miss the stress of wondering what I'll be fixing next...
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:18 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I've notice the W140 values is going downhill nowadays. But the the 600series= R129 SL, C140 and 600SEL- over here- the prices still above the 60k range= USD=40k.

only the 320, 280 S series- they are valued around 20-30 k.

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Which market are you talking about? (Cannot be the UK)
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Which market are you talking about? (Cannot be the UK)
Please tell us! I need to get into the W140 export business!
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Old 03-31-2009, 05:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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The value of the W140 will depreciate all the way to zero. It may be another 20 years before the W140 is viewed as a classic.
Public perception is that Mercedes vehicle are expensive cars to buy and maintain. Most people are too scared to contemplate owning one new or worse, used. Therefore the market for 2nd hand large Mercedes cars is small compared to your 'regular' vehicle.

I agree, it's a shame as the W140 is a well engineered and built car - the Maybach Mercedes.

Mercedes dilemma: they want the cars to be technologically advanced to differentiate their vehicles from the others on the market, but the more technologically advanced they become, the more expensive they are to maintain, so their resale value plummets.

Personally I think Mercedes should simplify, e.g. offer fewer models and options, e.g only offer the S class in V8 and V12.

I miss the V12, but don't miss the stress of wondering what I'll be fixing next...
I think thats part of the point Mercedes makes money from the sale of new cars and some late model used ones. It's not in their interests to foster a thriving 2nd hand market.
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I think thats part of the point Mercedes makes money from the sale of new cars and some late model used ones. It's not in their interests to foster a thriving 2nd hand market.
Not entirely true since M-B also makes a bunch of money on parts and service. There's actually more profit margin in that than in that than in selling cars.
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Which market are you talking about? (Cannot be the UK)
Opps..sorry --Brunei market ..I need to change my location. I was in UK from 2006-2008 for study..
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Old 04-01-2009, 12:39 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Not entirely true since M-B also makes a bunch of money on parts and service. There's actually more profit margin in that than in that than in selling cars.
Really do you know that for sure? I'm doing a university project right now and in his speech to the company's AGM Daimler's chairman made no mention of parts as a major profit centre of the business. He only spoke about number of car units, trucks etc sold. Considering a lot of the parts are made by 3rd party suppliers and Daimler has to maintain the distribution networks etc I'm not so sure if it is. You could be right I'm just interest to hear where you got that information from.
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