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hi,
I have the same problem and I am trying to fix it... I did everything, but all wiers wear burned and now I dont know which wire goes where please let me know how to solve this problem....
thank in advance

 

Awesome write-up! :thumbsup:

Please re-post this in the "knowldge base" thread too.

 

excellent writeup...it was too late for mine as my wires were so corroded they basically dissentagrated (mispelled). I was screwed because they didnt offer just the wire replacement so I had to buy 2 new mirrors

 

THX! If you had a wiring diagram, it would be rebuildable. I almost replaced the wires by cutting and splicing in w/solder joints. I may do so in the future if the rest of the rubber loomed wiring goes south. They appeared to be unscathed by heat, moisture, and bending when moving mirrors.

OUCH on the two new mirrors...

 

Excellent.
Anyone know where I can get the rubber for between the mirror and the door, mine is cracking. 97 s500 coupe

 

Junkyard! Or pay for a whole mirror assembly in case it goes out completely in the future, or he might just let you take the plastic since its so minute. Depends!

 

sorry to bump this thread back up, but i just wanted to thank you for the write up. I just finished re insulating all the wires in both mirrors. They both work like a charm now!

best part...no more floppy mirrors. I finally got them to extend all the way out.

Thanks again.

 

That is GREAT news! Enjoy the ride!

 

I wonder if they used cabling with a max rating too close to the current that flows?

 

Same problem happened on my friend's 97' S320 (W140)
the problem is...... If you want to remove the screw behind the side mirror, you must fold the mirror first, but everytime press the button to fold it, the fuse will burn, may I know is there any other way to fold the mirror to let me remove the screw? thanks a lot.

 

the wiring harness all over the car was made out of low heat rating, they tried cutting corners during engineering and production, mostly the wiring harness on the engine side tends to disintegrate, very few cases of side view mirror suffering from that defect although it is common.

 

It's actually to design the car to be easily recyclable per EU regulations.

 

sorry, can anyone tell me how to remove the screw without folding the side mirror please? coz I cannot fold it due to a good fuse will burn everytime I press the "side mirror fold" button. THANKS.

 

I knwo this is probably late and no one answer ur question but you can use your hands. You don't need power to fold them. if you push the side mirrors back they do fold manualy just don't use too much power. Push them in using both hands it shouldn't be that hard.

 

What size shrink tubing should be obtained? What colors?

Thanks for putting this information in the forum.

 

R.H. side mirror

3 months ago, your post saved me a lot of money!!! :thumbsup: Thanks :thumbsup: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w140-s-class/1475259-passenger-mirror-right-hand-side.html

 

Thank you very much for your guidance.

I have aquired 7 colors of 3/32" shrink tubing. My question is whether to use it to cover all portions of the wire including those portions with intact insulation, or to try and strip the insulation from the wires so that everything becomes bare wire?

Looking at your photos it appears that you have replaced some of the wire with new wire. Are my obsevations correct?

Thanks again.

 

I only covered bare and partially insulated wiring as no new wiring was used.
Up to you how far you want to go! Good luck!

 

Hi there,

My wiring was so bad that i decided to attempt a rewire having resigned myself to the fact that I was going to have to spend £400 GPB on a new one anyway, it was "do or die"....

Be very careful - if like mine, you have no way of discerning what colour enters the plug - when you open the connectors the pins jump out and you have no way of knowing what went where.
STOP
Before you open the plug, under a magnifying glass and bright light (I used a soldering station with arms and a large maglite), very close to the point of entry to the plug, the colours are just discernible allowing you to map colour to conn number.

The pins inside the plug can be opened very carefully and new wires inserted and reclosed. For good measure upon completion I wrapped the new cables into a loom with self-amalgamating tape which is much more weather resistant than insulating tape.

Mine now works perfectly.

When I do the second one, I'll photograph the stages and publish a wiring diagram of the appropriate connections.

Hope this helps :thumbsup:Newbie

--- S600L --- V12 --- 1996 ---

 

Thanks for the information. I was able to apply shrink tubing, and by pulling the wires one at a time and covering just that wire, I was able to get the mirror operational again.

There is a continuing problem in as much as the memory capability has vanished. Every time there is a driver change, the mirror in question has to be independently adjusted. I have no idea what the problem is.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

It could be a module that is located under the passenger foot well. You might want to research that because it might have been fried when using the bad mirrors. That module is what controls all of those functions.

 

Now THAT's good material! Nice format, well done.

The wiring material on the later 140's (98-99) seems a little more robust than the earlier runs. When I rebuilt my mirrors a few years back, only one or two wires had chaffed. The rest were in remarkably good shape.

I replaced the entire wire-runs with marine wire, and found a marine plug set as well. As I recall, the retract/extend mechanics drove me crazy.

All the best -

 

I took the easy way out and only covered the wires in the mirror, and did not go into the door. I hope that this solution will last me.

On the issue of memory, I understand why mine vanishes, what I don't understand is why the mirror's memory has vanished, leaving all other seat and opposite mirror memory functions intact.

Where should I look?

Thanks

 

I think you may still have an issue with your mirror in question. You may have to go over it one more time and look for a short or disconnect.

Good luck!
Mo

 

Before and after

Using this DIY as guidance, here's my before and after. This is the pax mirror on a 98 S500. Driver's side was done a while ago.

Like yours, my pax side was also on fire! The kids snapped a photo with the iPhone but it didn't turn out. It blew the usual fuses (position 30) but it didn't burn up the relays. Same fuse deactivates all of the seat and mirror controls.

The part# on this harness is 124 508 00 52(?) but even the dealer did not find a match. Do one of you guys that works in an electronics shop want to make up a few of these harnesses for forum users (Heck, I'd pay $25 for it)? Supposedly they fit numerous models 93-99.

Finally, I used marine wire and marine dual-layer shrink tube. Supposedly the inner layer melts at a lower temp and makes the whole thing water tight. Do an Internet search for a source, plenty around.

Dealer cost: Mirror + installation: $1,289.00
My cost (with the help of this EXCELLENT DIY): $21.00 for marine grade wire

Before:

And After:

geebee

 

My S300TD,year 1998.It has no blind function on exterior mirrors.How can i check if it works?Any advice,thank you....

 

I studied more the problem,i think that only the cars provided with inside dimming mirror have also the left outside dimming mirror also....Mine has normal mirrors,can i upgrade to anti-dimming mirrors?

 

I don't see any screws when I fold my mirrors guys. Is there a cover or something?
Folded the mirrors and no screws.

My mirrors do not fold all the way. actually they move only half an inch from all the way out to in. Do you think this is a symptom of wires gone bad?

 

Once again, this thread is resurrected. Great write up. This looks like the fix I need.

An additional symptom my S500 has is that the steering wheel adjuster knob does not work the steering wheel, but instead causes the passenger side view mirror to move out. If the wiring in my side view mirrors is bad could that somehow cause the steering wheel adjuster issue???

 

There is a high chance. Open one of your side mirrors and double check yourself.

-You need to pull the triangle from the inside where the mirror is bolted.
You need to pull the top corner of the triangle first then the sides. If you pull the sides you're most likely going to break the clips.
- Once the triangle is out you will see 3 nuts, if I recall they are 10mm.
- Once the nuts are out the mirror can unplugged and removed from the outside.
- Check the wires if they are corroded.
It shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes.

Also not all mirrors are like the one picture on here. Mine for example were totally different and couldn't be opened all the way to the motor. Thankfully though, the reason why my mirrors didn't open or fold all the way was because it needed to be lubricated. Your case sounds like a shortage in the wiring.

 

Great Write Up Same Problem Here. Question

How does one use a screwdriver to remove each wire one at a time from the connector so a shrink tube can be slid over the existing wire? Well, I figured out that the grey part of the connector slides sideways, and a small screwdriver will push down the pins so they can be removed.

Also, how did you pull the connector (and harness) back through the small hole in the frame as shown going from the 9th picture to the 10th picture?

I figured this out too. I did not realize that the mirror had to come off the frame in order to loosen three motor screws in order to pull the wire harness back through the slot.

Now that I figured all that out, I put the shrink tube on, put everything back together and it works great. Thanks for the pictures and instructional write up!

 

Like you said...I rewired the mirrors and it has the same problem. How much can you get the box for?

 

It was looking quite ugly and bleak but a few dollars worth of shrink tubing and I'm back in business.

Thanks again for the great pictures and instructions!

 

How does the mirror assembly attach back on the assembly?