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Old 08-22-2004, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

Why? Because this may restore reliable function to your closing assist pump, which may have stopped running making you think it was broken. Oh, and it may save you several hundred dollars for the cost of new one that you don't really need. I fixed my trunk closer recently as described in this post, but it stopped working this afternoon after about a week.

http://www.mbnz.org/forums/forums/th...id=13#M1284242

A couple months ago, I had taken the cover off the pump and noticed an electrical switch which looked like it may have been a pressure sensing shut-off switch, so I decided to look at it more closely, and in fact, it that's exactly what it is.

Pump operation explained. The pump does the closing of the doors and trunk with pressure. It pressurizes the lines causing the extension of pistons in actuators, which in turn move levers in the various latches, which pull the doors or trunk closed. The pump runs until one of two things happens: 1. It reaches a pre-set shut-off pressure (at which point the pump "thinks" it has properly done its job by fully extending the operational actuator piston), or 2. It never reaches its pre-set shut-off pressure and then runs for a set amount of time and turns off (that is, it "times out"). After pressurizing the line and doing the auto-closing, the pump then pulls a vacuum on the line, presumably to ensure retraction of the actuator piston. They are spring loaded, but I suppose they may not retract fully on occasion.

The problem arises in case 2. If the pump times-out twice on one line, then the electronics permanently shut off that function for the pump. Imagine that your trunk closer line develops a small leak preventing the pump from reaching its shut-off pressure. Eventually, the trunk closer line will shut down. Leak checking (it seems to me) is an important step if your pump repeatedly ceases to function.

If your pump stops working, you must electrically disconnect then reconnect it. Mine came back to life just fine. I had to disconnect the connector on the pump, however. Some say pulling fuse 9 in the trunk works, but it never did for me.

The pressure shut-off is a balancing act. You want to set the shut-off pressure high enough so that enough pressure is developed to latch the door or trunk, but you don't want it set too high so that the pump takes too long to reach the set pressure and times out.

I noticed that my doors and trunk would stay pulled closed for a while (many seconds after I had audibly heard the latch catching) before relaxing when the pump shut itself off. In other words, it seemed that the shut off pressure was set pretty high such that the pump kept pumping unnecessarily long after the door or trunk was latched. When my trunk stopped working again, I figured if I could turn down the shut-off pressure then that should restore reliable function. Time will tell if that is the truly the case.

So here is how to turn down your pump's shut-off pressure.

Pull out the pump and disconnect all the lines. Label them before disconnection if they aren't already. Unscrew 6 screws on the top of the pump and pry off the cover.


Admire the dual manifold design with solenoid switching between pressure and vacuum for each door and trunk line. Kinda cool. The pressure shut-off diaphragm is visible in this pic.


OK, here's the business end. Notice the dual contact switch that is operated by the white piston from the pressure sensing diaphragm. That white piston has a screw in the end of it which can be adjusted to adjust the shut-off pressure. If you screw it out a bit, then the piston will have to move less to trip the switch, therefore the pump will shut off at a lower threshold pressure.


Just turn the screw to adjust it. I just used needle nosed pliers. Finally, here's my original vs. new setting.


Now, my pump shuts down automatically in a lot less time after closing the doors and trunk. I think this is all that is needed to restore long term function. We'll see how this goes. I'll certainly report more if there is more to tell.

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Old 08-23-2004, 10:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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RE: Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

Beautiful write-up and pics Brett! Thanks for your time.
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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RE: Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

[:) Brett, is putting money in our Benz members pocket.Great job brett.....Bravo'
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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RE: Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

Thanks Brett, very interesting. One thing I don't understand. If it has only one pressure switch, how does it know which line was leaking? Does it apply vacuum/presure in sequence to close doors? I don't think so.
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The pump only presurizes the lines of the door or trunk that needs it. The solenoid

switches for each mechanism operate independently. A question I still have is whether the two time out events on one line have to be in close succession or can they be spread out over time. I don't know all the logic programmed into the electronics. I certainly know that you can reproduce the "two working closings and and then nothing" scenario over and over for one line. Just pull the line from the pump to the trunk for example and simulate closing the trunk by operating the latch with your thumb. The pump will run twice, then never run again for the trunk until you electrically disconnect it.

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Old 08-23-2004, 11:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
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RE: Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

Bret,
Great description: According to MB140 CD service info the pump starts when the first microswitch in the door indicates it is in position one. The pump creates pressure until it gets a signal from another switch (or maybe the same microswitch that tells it to shut off (the door or trunk is latched)if it does not, the limit switch should open to keep the diaphram from rupturing. I think there is a timing circuit to keep it from running too long (I am not definate on that) The two or three tries (are fact) that it does disable the circuit untill the power is removed to reset the circuit. The bulletin refers to the vacuum porting as purging the lines. You will notice the doors and trunk close beyond the catch and then relax as the pressure is removed and vacuum is introduced. You can normally hear the vacuum release in the trunk where the relif hose vents. I believe if all the doors are slammed at the same time the pump adresseses each in order, that way it knows when one fails to close.
Great diagnosis, I took one apart and it is another example of over engineering by MB.
The "locking pump" is very similar in providing pressure and vacuum for doors, orthopedic, and engine vacuum for HVAC system.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Actually, that is a good question, now that I think about it. If the pump

times out while it is simultaneously operating 2 or more lines, how does it know which is the "leaky" line. I don't know. Maybe it "charges" a time-out to each line, which could contribute to early "failure" of multiple doors.

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Old 08-23-2004, 02:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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RE: Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

Bret,
I really think as it closes one door nothing happens to the others,(they sequence) untill the process is complete or a failure. The next time I am going to slam two together to see if one pulls in while the other waits. In my failures the problem moved around, trunk, then rear door then other side. pull the fuses and it was ok for a while. The drivers which gets the most use never acted up. There was an opinion on the MB Club page that seemed to indicate a lot had to do with resistance or "corrosion" on the latches, which soaking down with oil would help.
There also was someone on another forum who "tweeked" the setting.
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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RE: Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

NOo..what happened to the pics? great write up!!
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:08 AM   #10 (permalink)
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RE: Restoring function to your closing assist pump. Adjusting the pressure shut-off. Long w/pics.

Brett, I did this whole procedure last year. Worked GREAT [:)] - - for a coupla months. Then it was out again. Just haven't gotten around to doing it again. The only downer to the fix is it's trail and error, then you have to dig back out again.
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