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Old 08-26-2002, 08:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1987 420SEL,What to do to it

I bought my first Benz about 6 months ago.Its 15 years old and its streets ahead of any new car I've ever had.I'm just wondering what to do to it.For a start it burns a lot of oil on start up and also on the highway when I put the boot down,there's a little smoke.I would like to keep this car and invest money in its up-keep.I understand the oil problem could be rings etc and it might be exspensive, but I'm willing to spend the money on it.I was also wondering what I could to to upgrade the engine on a car that old ( ie AMG kit etc).If anybody has any suggestions I would appreciste them.Also if anybody could recommend a good Benz mechanic in the New York area.
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Old 08-27-2002, 09:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Could it be you just need valve seals?...


Could it be you just need valve seals?
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Old 08-28-2002, 02:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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My favorite subject....The amg engine kit would be very nice, but it wold be probably cheaper to get a new amg mercedes then to go that route.

Intake- goto a junkyard and get yourself an airpan for a 1991 560 sel (it is dual instead of single.) Goto the dealership and get yourself the scoop and airtubes as well. Swap airfilter for a better one. Bingo, more air.

Fan- Electric fan if you have the time and money.

first gear start, new differential, and other cool but very pricey stuff-- www.bergwerks.com

bi-turbo-- mosselman makes a bi-turbo or twin turbo for this car. you can get it from australia (don't remember the site) for about $2000 last I saw. Actually he has other stuff and he is going to email me so I can forward you his site later.

exhaust- hi flow cat, dump the resonators, bigh performance mufflers connected by H-pipe.

engine- you can get a euro spec (300hp) engine for $5000-6000?

spray- always wanted to see a benz with nitrous [:D]

supercharger- kleeman makes mercedes superchargers...pricey

shocks- blistens or koni (what most ppl like)

if you do all that (with turbo) i think that should be 400-500hp [:I] then, i suppose, you'd give me a ride. oh wait....more stuff i remembered:

renntech makes camshafts with or without modified cylinder heads good for 24-41 hp and 14-26 torque. $3500-$6000.

As i said, the amg engine would probably be more expensive than all this shit. Good luck
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Old 08-28-2002, 04:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've replaced the valve seals already(thanks anyway Todd). ...

I've replaced the valve seals already(thanks anyway Todd).
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Old 08-28-2002, 04:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You've wet my appetite Sebastian.Sounds like exactly what I want to do after I get the oil...

You've wet my appetite Sebastian.Sounds like exactly what I want to do after I get the oil sorted out.This is my first Benz, I'm amazed at thier class and luxury.I feel like writing a letter to Toyota and Honda "Sorry, but I won't be buying any of your products again".
I'm not looking to turn this car into a "Fast and Furious" type car,I'd like to keep the class look the the Benz has but at the same time keep a few things hidden under the hood[8D].Thanks for the suggestions.If I do anything to it I'll keep you posted and if you have any other ideas please feel free to let me know.
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Old 08-29-2002, 01:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've been hearing a lot about the "redline" product series. Supposedly, they increase hp from using better chemicals or something for their oil (or maybe additive), tranny fluid, and possibly gas additives. I tried their "water wetter" product on our old bmw and it seemed to drop the temp a bit. These cars LOVE cold air....you can EASILY tell a huge performance difference between 60 degrees and 100 outside temp. Maybe that stuff might help.

Also, you can change the pulleys in the car and buy lightened and/or less friction ones. You can also slap on some belts that turn 1/3 less than a normal belt so less power goes to the power steering, a/c, and fan, and more goes to the wheels.

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Old 08-29-2002, 01:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Upgrade to a better ignition system and wires...i heard jacobs omni is really good.

some deal about changing a resisitor and getting "seat of pants" difference...should work on the w126
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=32224

more on that: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=45102
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Old 08-30-2002, 01:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey, it's probably a dumb question,but is the 1987 420sel fuel injected?...

Hey, it's probably a dumb question,but is the 1987 420sel fuel injected[:I]
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Old 08-30-2002, 05:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Hey, it's probably a dumb question,but is the 1987 420sel fuel injected?...

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The answear to your VERY! dumb question is yes, it is fuel injected

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Old 08-30-2002, 08:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Fuel Injection

Yes, it is fuel injected. The "E" in your car's badge stands for the german word "einspritz" (I think). Which means injection. I think the "S" means Sonder (?) or special and the "L" is for Lang, (long). You drive a "Special fuel injected long" Mercedes [:)] Of course now we now the "E" as the E-class, and the whole badging system has been messed up. [:(]
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