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Old 11-21-2012, 02:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I honestly don`t think this is actually an AMG for a number of reasons ..
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Im absolutely convinced its not. No AMG plate in the engine bay. No AMG dials. Etc, etc.

And on a different note.....the worlds worst repaint. They even painted the door handle surrounds. Thanks Peter
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey Peter, congratulation, where did you find your car? Dealer, Trademe?
That AMG is definetly raaaad, picure num. 10 scares me a bit... and I have to admit the pict of the seats made me cry for 10 minutes
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:16 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Im absolutely convinced its not. No AMG plate in the engine bay. No AMG dials. Etc, etc.

And on a different note.....the worlds worst repaint. They even painted the door handle surrounds. Thanks Peter
Hmm, a lot of pre merger AMG`s don`t have plates or dials, mine doesn`t.
What it doesn`t have however is an AMG steering wheel or a registration label saying it is an AMG .. mine does on both counts.
The other thing is the boot spoiler .. it doesn`t look right to me and I can`t google one similar ..
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Amgs are simply a stock car with a bunch of random amg parts added by the owner
There is no build plate serial no
There is no formula ie no dials means not AMG
most were put together buy whoever sold AMG parts at the time
Not even all the wide body cars were put together by AMG in Germany
The discussion should revolve around whether the AMG parts on the car are real or not
Mike your rego says amg because back in the day dealers could put add ons like that when they first registered the car (not saying its not )
The only real proof that a car is "AMG" is the receipts from the original build
And if you are a real purist if the car was not modified, immediately post delivery, in Affalterbach then it is not a real AMG
On a side note,Mike if your car was sold NZ new as an AMG I bet it was a special order for someone and Coutts may have had the work done pre delivery in Germany, or bought in the parts and done it here it would be interesting to see if they still have a record of what was done.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Amgs are simply a stock car with a bunch of random amg parts added by the owner
There is no build plate serial no
There is no formula ie no dials means not AMG
most were put together buy whoever sold AMG parts at the time
Not even all the wide body cars were put together by AMG in Germany
The discussion should revolve around whether the AMG parts on the car are real or not
Mike your rego says amg because back in the day dealers could put add ons like that when they first registered the car (not saying its not )
The only real proof that a car is "AMG" is the receipts from the original build
And if you are a real purist if the car was not modified, immediately post delivery, in Affalterbach then it is not a real AMG
On a side note,Mike if your car was sold NZ new as an AMG I bet it was a special order for someone and Coutts may have had the work done pre delivery in Germany, or bought in the parts and done it here it would be interesting to see if they still have a record of what was done.
All good points !!
I`m aware that dealers can and still do register things as they see fit !!
Mate of mine recently bought a Mini Cooper for his wife that turned out to be a rebadged Mini One; he only found out when he took it to the dealer for intake, and exhaust mods and an ECU reflash and got given the bad news.
I`m comfortable with the evidence supporting the provenance of mine; it was imported fully assembled into Tauranga by a dealer on behalf of its original owner .. at a cost in 1883 of $305k !! Its been authenticated by a knowledgeable Euro car dealer down here who has supplied me recently for insurance purposes an updated valuation and it has been described as "very rare".
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:06 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Real AMG has 300kmh speedo end scale (320kmh sometime), AMG labeled. If it doesn't I presume is not a factory AMG. I think this one on sale is a car that has been upgraded to AMG specifics and esthetics look. Nothing wrong with that despite that car needs to be rebuild from scratch to have any hypothetical value
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:32 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I`m comfortable with the evidence supporting the provenance of mine; it was imported fully assembled into Tauranga by a dealer on behalf of its original owner .. at a cost in 1883 of $305k !! Its been authenticated by a knowledgeable Euro car dealer down here who has supplied me recently for insurance purposes an updated valuation and it has been described as "very rare".
You sir are very lucky to have provenance to back your car up
Something that many genuine cars are sadly lacking and if SECs ever become true collectables of high value will probably be worth as much as the car itself...
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I`m aware that dealers can and still do register things as they see fit !!
Its actually pretty cool it was registered that way , kudos on the rego label
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Real AMG has 300kmh speedo end scale (320kmh sometime), AMG labeled. If it doesn't I presume is not a factory AMG. I think this one on sale is a car that has been upgraded to AMG specifics and esthetics look. Nothing wrong with that despite that car needs to be rebuild from scratch to have any hypothetical value
Many "Real AMG" cars do not have 300kph speedo......

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Old 11-21-2012, 08:35 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Ok has an AMG badge but that sounds like esthetics, I wouldn't buy one and pay for the difference today, specially in that conditions,
I can consider an AMG car if has an AMG engine, that's something different,
and if it is from AMG german factory be sure that is going to have a 300kmh scaled speedo, I say that just because of common sense: 1985, you buy your really expensive car ,then you take it to the AMG and select from a very expensive list of modifications, you decide to make this car fly and then you are fine with a stock, "just 260" speedo to see that idle bounce like a yo-yo? Nah.
REAL AMG means REAL engine for me, I understand this is personal.
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