|05-07-2007, 10:57 AM||#1 (permalink)|
BenzWorld Junior Member
Date registered: Nov 2005
Vehicle: 1984 300SD T Diesel
Location: Pomfret CT
Failed Emissions NOx
See attached picture... Failed NOx by alot. I was thinkin new cats. The car has not been touched in over 10 years, and I don't want to put a dime into unless it passes emissions. I can get 2 new cats for about $180 and that is my limit on spending. I will do that unless you guys have any other ideas.
1986 560 SEL
1984 Mercedes Benz 300SD Turbo Diesel
1999 Mazda Miata AE, 1989 Tbird Supercoupe
1994 Tbird SC 5-speed, 1994 Tbird SC Auto
1989 F-250 Diesel, 1993 F-150 4x4 XLT Gasser
|05-07-2007, 12:28 PM||#2 (permalink)|
Date registered: Dec 2003
Vehicle: 1965 220S, 1999 Volvo V70 (wagon), 2002 Ford Crown Vic Police Interceptor
Location: Near Manassas Va.
Fix all your vacuum leaks first, injector seals, manifold half donuts, manifold gaskets, clean out the carbon buildup in the EGR system. There are rubber hoses too that need to be replaced.
EGR, check the small short pipe under the air cleaner that connects to the rear cam cover.
It's a big job but worth it.
Check the cat(s) for scrapes or dents indeicating broken elements inside.
Near Manassas Va. '65 220S, 2006 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, '99 Volvo V70, '72 350SL
Not part of the in-crowd since 1952. It's BRAKES not breaks. You break a bone, use brakes to stop your car. /rant
|05-07-2007, 12:30 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Date registered: Feb 2005
Vehicle: 1985 380SE
Location: Davidson, NC & DC area
Change the oil, spark plugs, and airfilter, and then richen your fuel mixture. Look how much wiggle room you have in HC and CO, but yet you're way high on NOx, so you're apparently running lean.
|05-07-2007, 03:34 PM||#4 (permalink)|
Date registered: May 2006
Vehicle: 1998 S500
The cats won't have as much to do with NOx as the EGR and fuel mixture. The hotter the combustion (lean mixture), the more NOx. The EGR takes care of that off idle, and the fuel mixture needs to be 14.7 for best emissions.
|05-08-2007, 01:56 PM||#5 (permalink)|
BenzWorld Senior Member
Date registered: Mar 2003
Vehicle: 1991 300SE 250,000KM Award Recipient
Location: Sacramento, California
EGR is probably your problem. Without CO2 and O2 measurements it's hard to know how the cats are operating but make sure the EGR is working, I'll bet its plugged up.
|05-08-2007, 02:34 PM||#6 (permalink)|
Date registered: Apr 2007
Vehicle: Mercedes 420 SEL
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
Also, back off on your timing if you can... I don't know these cars, but that will help, and you're lean--as mentioned before. Also make sure that your car is properly warmed up before the test. Don't turn off your car while waiting in line.
|05-08-2007, 05:51 PM||#7 (permalink)|
Date registered: Jul 2005
Vehicle: 1991 300SE
Location: Tucson, AZ
I'll pretty much be repeating what others are saying...
Change out the plugs (Bosch), check your plug wires, cap, rotor, change the oil and filter, check your fuel filter, check/clean the EGR vavle, check for vacuum leaks (seems to be the culprit) and check for any other leaks in the intake system. (around the plugs, EHA, injectors, etc.) New cats could possibly do the trick. But, I don't think you should retard your timing unless you were running high on Hydrocarbons. Your car passed HC pretty good. When I had to get the 190e to pass (from high HC) I retarded the timing to 12 degrees and "created" a vacuum leak to lean out the mixture. If your car uses the R16/1 resistor setup for timing, than you can remove the resistor for 0 degrees timing (runs richer) and run her through emissions again. After checking everything else, of course.
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