W126 vs. W124 - Mercedes-Benz Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
#1 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 01:10 PM
BenzWorld Extremist
 
Date registered: May 2005
Vehicle: 1983 300 SD; 2000 E320
Location: CT/MA
Posts: 1,099
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
(Thread Starter)
W126 vs. W124

On this board I've only seen comparisons with the W140. The more I think about it the true comparison is the 124. When you take classic looks and style out of the equation, it seems that the W124 has equal if not superior engineering, equal build quality; equal longevity; and benefits from more modern technology.

If one can deal with a slightly smaller car (though not smaller for front seat passengers I believe) that is not as impressive or stylish as its S-class brother, does one give up ANYTHING by choosing the E-class?

'83 SD burns no oil @ 221,000 (crashed, RIP)
2000 E320 Wagon 4matic 119,000
andrew_falky is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#2 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 01:27 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
jhodg5ck's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2002
Vehicle: Depends on the day!
Location: Atlanta, GA (Lilburn)
Posts: 13,270
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to jhodg5ck
RE: W126 vs. W124

Which gen of 124 are you refering? The early or late itterations (cut off of around 92)???

Comparing my 300TE to my 560SEC is night and day!

Jonathan

Blue Ridge Mercedes/AMG East
Jonathan Hodgman
http://www.blueridgemb.com/
Enthusiast Service, Restoration & Tuning.
Authorized RENNtech Dealer & Installer
Follow Us on Facebook!
Located in the Atlanta area
05 E55 Estate
96 S600 Euro
93 300SE
92 500E Euro Track Rat
91 300CE
91 560SEC ECE
91 500SL Euro
91 560SEC 226/271
88 300E AMG
89 560SEC AMG+ SOHC 6.0L
87 Hammer Wagon 6.0L 32V
87 Hammer 6.0L 32V
86 560SEL AMG 6.0L 32V

Mercedes Repair Atlanta
jhodg5ck is offline  
#3 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 02:04 PM
BenzWorld Extremist
 
Date registered: May 2005
Vehicle: 1983 300 SD; 2000 E320
Location: CT/MA
Posts: 1,099
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
(Thread Starter)
RE: W126 vs. W124

Jonathan,

I wasn't aware there were two generations. I guess G2 compared to G2 of the W126 is the fairest comparison.

'83 SD burns no oil @ 221,000 (crashed, RIP)
2000 E320 Wagon 4matic 119,000
andrew_falky is offline  
#4 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 02:05 PM
Premium Member
 
Dr.Grillz's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: Mercedes
Location: NA
Posts: 8,202
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
RE: W126 vs. W124

I think the w124 had 3 generations. 1986-1988, 1989-1992, 1993-1995 I might be off by a year though. The early w124's were pretty basic, but got better as the years went. The 1994-1995 cars are pretty cool.
Dr.Grillz is offline  
#5 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 05:33 PM
BenzWorld Veteran
 
jzaroh's Avatar
 
Date registered: May 2003
Posts: 719
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
RE: W126 vs. W124

Quote:
Snibble - 9/25/2005 5:05 PM

I think the w124 had 3 generations. 1986-1988, 1989-1992, 1993-1995 I might be off by a year though. The early w124's were pretty basic, but got better as the years went. The 1994-1995 cars are pretty cool.
Facelifts or whatever. You're right. Actually 1986 - 1989 were the same, the 1990 model had zebrano wood trim available on all doors, along with leather as standard. The sides lost their impact strip for cladding similar to the W126. In 1991, the trunk was slightly redesigned, with a backface that was flush with the rest of the trunk. In 1993, the 24-valve engines were introduced, and the steering wheel changed shape to that of which was already introduced to the W140 in 1992. In 1994, a few options were deleted(to cut costs, I guess?), such as telescopic wheel, dual memory seating, etc. Although the front brake calipers in the early versions were upgraded to a 4-piston design.

Nothing beat the early 300E's for tossability, with only around 3200 lbs curb weight. The early '90's 300E had taller gearing, and the transmission was designed to engage first gear from a stop. The last model W124's had the 24-valve engines which were 10% more economical, and could accelerate, IMHO, just as well as the early 300E's. Yet they had more heft up front, which compromised the handling.
jzaroh is offline  
#6 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 06:01 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
jdc1244's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jun 2003
Vehicle: 1991 300 SE
Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posts: 18,534
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
RE: W126 vs. W124

It’s not a coincidence the second gen 126 arrived the same time as the new ‘mid size’ 124. The 124s were equal to the 126 in engineering, technology, and build quality – at least to 1991. The cars are virtually identical, the 126 was of course larger, heavier, and gave a more luxurious ride, DB was careful to make the 124 attractive to new buyers while at the same time not overshadow the S Class flagship. That’s why no V8 124s were made while the 126 was still alive: V8 meant either an S or SL. (Thus no coincidence again the 400 E and 500 E debuted in 92.)

But the 124 was meant to be positioned below the 126 and 107, just above a 201: it replaced the 123 as the last of the classic workhorse MB accommodating a wagon, sedan, and coupe on its chassis. The engines were at first modest: various 103s, and the 603 and 602.

As an aside, the 124s were not known as ‘E Class’ during the 80s and early 90s; the ‘Letter Class’ thing did not start until the mid 90s (sadly) and the E Class designation became a retro label, if you will, for the earlier cars.

The last 124 was made in1995, our third ‘non-coincidence’ in that starting in 1996 DB/DCX went downhill fast into the dark abyss of poor quality, tedious Japanese-like styling, and a confusing, mind numbing array of pseudo ‘Classes’ as meaningless as the tedious styling. It was indeed the last of the great MBs.
jdc1244 is offline  
#7 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 08:52 PM
Premium Member
 
Dr.Grillz's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: Mercedes
Location: NA
Posts: 8,202
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 24 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
RE: W126 vs. W124

The M119 V8 came in late 1990 but was never offered for the w126, but was offered for the new R129. A year later, for the w124 500E.
Dr.Grillz is offline  
#8 (permalink) Old 09-25-2005, 09:52 PM
AMSOIL300CDT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Mentioned: Post(s)
Tagged: Thread(s)
Quoted: Post(s)
RE: W126 vs. W124

i'd like a nice, dark green (whatever the colors called), 94-95 or whatever year, the last year, preferably...a E 420..........V8.....that would be quick.....i bet there's a turbocharger kit for it too.....
 
#9 (permalink) Old 09-26-2005, 03:28 AM
BenzWorld Elite
 
talbir's Avatar
 
Date registered: Dec 2004
Location: London UK
Posts: 1,831
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
RE: W126 vs. W124

There's one w124 that is a few notches above even the 560SEC....

...the w124 500E / E500.

It has W140 interior luxury, V8 326hp with 354lbft torque (22 lb ft more than the M119 in the r129 - the 500E M119 had revised intakes) and body styling that no other non-AMG MB (apart from the Cosworth w201's) left the factory with....the link with Porsche simply adds to the quality. Of course, Recaro seats as standard fitment (which were also in the Sportline w124 models)

Each 500E took 18 days to build....compare that with 3-4 days for the W126 SEC.

And even parts for the e500 are a good factor of 150% higher than w126 SEC prices.




Mercedes w124 500E 1993 Black 040
Mercedes w124 500E 1993 Spruce Green
Mercedes AMG 560SEC 1988
Mercedes AMG DOHC M117 w126 AMG Widebody SEC 1985
Mercedes 560SE Carat Duchatelet 1987
Mercedes w126 SEL Brabus
Mercedes w124 T Brabus
Porsche 911 Turbo SE Slantnose 1986
Mercedes 560E - w124 5.6 DOHC 360bhp by Stratton
Ferrari 328 GTS Quattrovalvole 1986 Koenig Widebody
Porsche 928 S4 by Strosek, Supercharged 550bhp
Mercedes 190E AMG Widebody
Mercedes SEC by Gemballa 6.9
talbir is offline  
#10 (permalink) Old 09-26-2005, 10:13 AM
Moderator
 
cyberdrakon's Avatar
 
Date registered: Dec 2002
Vehicle: SLK55 (2006) C36 (1995)
Location: SoCal USA & Taipei, Taiwan
Posts: 3,263
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
Send a message via AIM to cyberdrakon Send a message via MSN to cyberdrakon
RE: W126 vs. W124

It has w140 interior luxury? i don't know...the door feels awefully light, and the wood and dash seems the same as the other w124s (too plain).

eddie aka cyberdrakon aka drakon

SLK 55 AMG widebody (2006), C36 AMG (1995), 420 SEL (1989)
Previously: 560 SEC RennTech/AMG (1990), 420 SEL (1987).
cyberdrakon is offline  
Reply

  Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Sedan Forums > W126 S,SE,SEC,SEL,SD,SDL Class


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome