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Old 04-26-2005, 07:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

Hey all, i came across this interesting article, about Mercedes Benz from 1983/84 till present, that mercedes and bmw actually sell their cars with 70% of the cars actual performance.

In simpler terms, A 560SEC might actually have like 350HP?, and tts with the engine's maximum output. However, with this full performance, the car may be at great risk of overheating, and many engine faults tt my surface after buying the car. Also it would be somewhat unmanageble for a 70yr old grandma to drive.

Thus they lower the cars max output rate, for safety reasons, as well as something about the emissions test. Our cars may not actually be at 70%, but mercedes benz sttugart claims that each model has its own personal safety perfomance level.

That means, that many of us, if interested, may actually be able to get much more out of our cars then we have now!

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Old 04-26-2005, 08:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

Well, how do you get the 100% performance out of these cars.

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Old 04-26-2005, 09:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

i've always thought it fairly common knowledge that the german's performance figures are conservative..although under rating by 30%..I doubt that. My bone stock SEC w/ 120K managed 209 at the rear wheels which I was quite pleased with.

If you want to know what you car makes, don't guess..take it to a dyno and find out for sure:)

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Old 04-26-2005, 10:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

To change the performance of your car, or get more bang for your buck.. Get an after market ECU from a performance company.. Only goto a reputable company, or you could spend a buncha cash not only on the new ECU, but to repair your car after the new ECU trashes it..

Good Luck on your quest for more preformance...
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

Ummm..I don't even know of any company that makes aftermarket ECU's for our cars.. It's not like you can just plug a chip on as per later cars etc..


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Old 04-26-2005, 11:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

Powerchip?? They've got an add right in the forums here.. The sell ECU's and other chipsets for our cars...



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Old 04-26-2005, 12:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

Umm..yea, they don't make crap for any 560, just as I suspected. The ECU's on these cars are very expensive and I'll repeat myself, there is no provision for chipping these units..they are sealed.

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Old 04-26-2005, 02:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

Maybe it's the combination of emissions systems being installed and the conservative nature of German car makers that makes it a 30% "drop"?
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Old 04-26-2005, 02:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real performance.

I prefer a conservative estimate rather than the overly optimistic ones the marketing department pushes at most car manufacturers.

I guess the worst offenders were the late 60's muscle cars where the stated engine output was in many cases overestimated by more than 100HP.

Or what SAAB did for a while; state power output for their turbo engines from a system operating at a higher pressure than the standard system.
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Old 04-26-2005, 03:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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RE: Mercedes Sells their cars with only 70% of the cars real perfomance.

I have over 400 hp in my SEC so maybe the potential is a little higher than that.
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