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Difference between models S, SE, SEL

Ok I don't understand the differences between the models S, SE, and SEL. I know that SEC is the coupe and SD is a diesel, and SDL is the diesel long wheelbase, so what is the difference between the S, SE and SEL?

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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

I've never seen just an "s". Although and "SL" is a 2-door convertable. An "SE" is a 4-door sedan. An "SEL" is a 4-door sedan long wheel base.
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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

S= S-Class
E= Fuel Injection (einspritzung in German hence using the letter E)
L= Long wheel base

So by look at all different models you can basiacally tell what engine it has and the body type

For example:

420 SEL = 4.2 litre, fuel injected V8 long wheelbase
280S = 2.8 litre caburettor in-line 6cyl short wheelbase

Anything without the L is short wheel base

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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

Where are (or at lease were) 126 “S� such as the 280 S (126.021) which used a carburetor; the 280 SE (126.022) is the same six cylinder engine with fuel injection, as noted before.
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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

ok, ok

So CL is C-class, long-wheelbase.

But is there anyway to remember the engines on the newer cars, I mean the S600 has a 5.5 litre V12 turbo engine, is this just the US version? Is the german V12 a 6.0 liter so the name S600 fist with it?

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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

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ok, ok

So CL is C-class, long-wheelbase.

But is there anyway to remember the engines on the newer cars, I mean the S600 has a 5.5 litre V12 turbo engine, is this just the US version? Is the german V12 a 6.0 liter so the name S600 fist with it?
I know nada about the new cars (kinda proud of that, too [}:)][;)]) perhaps someone will post who knows the new cars or you can post a question in the general forum.


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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

The first time I sat in a 600s (at that time it was called 600sel) I was checking how thick the glass was. While I was doing that my friend without paying attention tried to close that window. Boy oh boy did I get it, I had to get out of the car in the middle of Saudi heat (on my way from the airport to a hotel) and roll on the sand as if puting a fire out from my whole body. I tell you what, I did not care if that thing had 12 cylinders, I was just glad it had a med cabinet in the rear.
Back to the 600s, it is a w140 chassis and at that time it felt underpowered even with 300hp under the hood. I think it was super heavy. The shape is modern and still has a benz look to it.
The new s class inclusing the 600 and 500 look like toyotas, I have no idea who is copying from each other.
I strongly believe that the w126 is the last of the real benz. (period)

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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

Ok, to set the issue straight, up until the mid 90's,('94? not sure) they had the cars named by displacement, body type, injection, if they had it,and LWB, if they had it.
600SEL= 6 liters, S class(super) Einspritzung(inj.) lang(LWB). Then, they changed it, to S600, S class, displacement, and CDI on the end if it was diesel(or TD). Now there is no clear way to know the wheelbase length, except by looking at the car.(which is hard by the newer S class, W220) The 600SEC besame the S600(coupe), and was renamed CL in '97, I believe. When they changed the name, they facelifted the S class, and the E class, W124. This is also when they introduced the C class, W202. With knowing which engine is which, you just need to know the displacement by reding it off the car, and if the labels are removed its hard to tell. Sometimes there are little clues, like an S600 grille, but there are probably so many cars driving around with those that are NOT in fact S600's that its hard to be sure. The distinction between the TT V12 W220 and the non TT is the facelift. Clear healights, and 4 little white stripes in the taillights are the facelift.(the older one has 2 larger stripes in the taillights.) Same goes for the CL C215. Hope this answers most of your various questions.
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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

BTW, the CL thing is irrelevant, no connection to the c class. maybe it means coupe, long, but then what would CLK mean? The reason the newer V12 cars are still called 600 is because they would otherwise be confused with the 74cc smaller AMG V8. And anyway, the first 5.8l V12 600 made a name for itself as the 600, so if they called the new one 550 it would just confuse people.
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RE: Difference between models S, SE, SEL

CLK stands for

C=C-class or coupe
L-Light (or licht in Deutsch)
K-Short (kurz in german)

So u get the CLK. Essentially a shortened CL Coupe

These nomenclatures can get u all confused !!!!!

See because the L can mean Light or Long... also the engines capacity is no longer what u see on the badge. Before it was a pretty watertight guide on what the displacement was. But now u get the E240... Its got a 2.6 litre V6, the new C180k is actually a 2.0 litre, the S600 is a 5.8 litre Twin turbo V12...

Why dont they just make them the E260 or the C200 or the S580! [V]

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