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Old 03-06-2007, 10:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down poor show of w126s at the car show in Ft Lauderdale

Ok there was only 2 w126 SECs at the show and no sedans----the car that won the show in the 1999 and older group out of a 420sl, 560sl, 560sec, my 500sec convert, and a w123 wagon---was a 107 560 that looked like it was purchaced and put in a garage for the last 15 years

The winner was chosen by the owners at the show as well as the people passing by ----mine had many compliments and noticed that it was being voted on quite frequenly---(they did park me right next to the SLR) ---but the stock 560sl took home the winnings

My question is that out of the whole ft lauderdale and miami area--heck south FL, why was there such a poor showing??? it was such a nice day and great location---are w126 coupes and sedans in good condition so scarce now that no one will show??? please advise???

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Old 03-06-2007, 10:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Concourse condition w126's are pretty rare, I don' see many too many nice ones, lotsa 10 footers. Hell Aaron, if I knew you were gonna bring the convertible i may have dragged my ass up there. I was polishing wheels on my truck that day.
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Concourse condition w126's are pretty rare, I don' see many too many nice ones, lotsa 10 footers.
Incidentaly what do you think a concourse condition w126 could fetch these days since they are in fact rare?
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it was a funcours not concorse event, so the car did not have to be immaculate---mine is far from show quality in my opinion but i felt confident enough to put her in the show ---there were like 5 500Es there as well ---the w123 wagon was pretty rough inside and out!! but the nice guy that owned it did his best to make it presentable on the outside
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Incidentaly what do you think a concourse condition w126 could fetch these days since they are in fact rare?
I've seen them go from Bruce's price to over $20k.
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Are the cars Bruce deals with concours quality? I was under the impression the were
super condiiton (90+) but were still something you would drive... most likely on weekends and sunny days.

I don't know if I have this wrong but I believe a true concours car (95+) is rarely driven on the road is always trailered.

I used to do a lot marketing work for a major car transport and they carried very expensive museum quality or one-of-a-kind concept vehicles to events. These cars were never driven or it they were only to the spot they were exhibited at. I also did some posters for Concours d'elegance events and the cars there were truly like jewels... you wouldnt dare drive them!

I was curious what a 126 of this caliber (98+) would be worth.
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Are the cars Bruce deals with concours quality? I was under the impression the were
super condiiton (90+) but were still something you would drive... most likely on weekends and sunny days.

I don't know if I have this wrong but I believe a true concours car (95+) is rarely driven on the road is always trailered.

I used to do a lot marketing work for a major car transport and they carried very expensive museum quality or one-of-a-kind concept vehicles to events. These cars were never driven or it they were only to the spot they were exhibited at. I also did some posters for Concours d'elegance events and the cars there were truly like jewels... you wouldnt dare drive them!

I was curious what a 126 of this caliber (98+) would be worth.
My nicest cars are in gorgeous mint condition, but every one of them is original, and even the ridiculously low mile cars are still daily drivers to me, although on nice weekends.

I don't think any of my cars would place in a national-caliber event. For that, I think you need restoration of critical components, especially the engine bay and undercarriage.
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My nicest cars are in gorgeous mint condition, but every one of them is original, and even the ridiculously low mile cars are still daily drivers to me, although on nice weekends.

I don't think any of my cars would place in a national-caliber event. For that, I think you need restoration of critical components, especially the engine bay and undercarriage.
Well I'm in agreement with you on that one. What's the point of having a mint car and you cant even drive it!!!

Do you think a ground up fully restored 98+ point 126 would not be worth doing? Certainly would be worth more than 20-25k I would think. Does anyone have one? I don't think I've ever seen one... at least not in this country.
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Well I'm in agreement with you on that one. What's the point of having a mint car and you cant even drive it!!!

Do you think a ground up fully restored 98+ point 126 would not be worth doing? Certainly would be worth more than 20-25k I would think. Does anyone have one? I don't think I've ever seen one... at least not in this country.
Trust me, it's not worth doing from a monetary standpoint. Not even close. The cars are not valued at shows yet...so even a 100 point car will be beaten by a 93 point car of a more historically interesting marque or model. If you had a 98 point car, with 25K miles or so, it'd be worth $30K tops. It will cost you $20K to get a car like that, and then an easy $25K in work/parts to get it to a TRUE 98 point condition.

If you want to place in shows, have a car that draws gasps when a good mechanic puts it on a lift, and want pride of ownership, then maybe. But keep in mind every time you drive the car, you also drive down the quality of the car's cosmetics, it will cost you a king's ransom to do properly, and you will see a return on investment of 30% or so.

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I have no idea why people go for these concours events, unless the car is fantastically rare. It would be better and more practical to buy a painting. I was reading a catalog of Camaro (my first car) restoration parts; they actually sell a piece of chalk that you use to put the original factory fender alignment marks on with. Really, how anal-retentive can you get?

But if I win the lottery, I'd probably have 3 MB's (2 SL's and an SEC) and one of them would always be undergoing total restoration (by my anal-retentive employees) while I drove the other two.
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